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Old 07-18-2007, 06:04 AM
Cosmo26 Cosmo26 is offline
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Default NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

SB is 25/10 about 100 hands. Not a bad player, fairly tight.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $72.60
BB: $50.00
UTG: $53.75
MP: $72.70
CO: $32.25
Hero (BTN): $87.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($2.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.50</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.50, <font color="red">MP raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $17.25</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $72.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>

Can I consider a laydown here? His shove looks like a re-raise is what villain hoped for. And we are not HU.
Thoughts?
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

You're really only worried about 33 here and the odds of flopping a flush are pretty damn low. I just don't see it being narrow enough to fold. You'll see plenty of 2-pairs and TPs and strong FDs here. Flush boards like this are often like a game of chicken because players often assume the other is on a draw so a huge pot can build on just pairs even. The fact that it's a family pot complicates things tremendously though.

Interesting spot. Maybe someone can make a case for folding. Any other reads?
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:48 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

its only costing you 55 to call into about 100 here, so you pretty much have to call considering all the hands villain could have.
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

Call, first pump when MP comes along too.
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

what's happened to UTG and MP? They both folded?

Hm. you are getting about 2:1 which is about right to fill up. It's very close.
If you think that villain might play a combo draw like this like AdTx or 5d4d or something like that, it's a pretty trivial call. It gets even easier when villain would slowplay AA or KK preflop. But that's unlikely.
If you think that villain is really tight so that he will either have a made flush or a bigger set here, it's a close fold.
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

Sry wasn't clear. 2 folds after SB pushed.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

There were five players pf. It's not hard to think the push has a made weak flush. My question would be what what we put MP on? Flush as well? Top pair, Ad kicker? I think the range we put MP on is essential for a decision b/c he may have a higher set (unlikely), but at the very least has one or two or our possible outs, which will of course screw with our equity in the hand, particularly against yet another opponent with a [potentially] better made hand like a flush. WHAT HAPPENED?
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

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You're really only worried about 33 here and the odds of flopping a flush are pretty damn low.&lt;&lt;&lt;----------????

Interesting spot. Maybe someone can make a case for folding. Any other reads?

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FIVE players in pot pf.
Also, NEVER GO BROKE IN AN UNRAISED POT!!!
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

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Also, NEVER GO BROKE IN AN UNRAISED POT!!!

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That rule is BS.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Bottom Set on a monotone board in a mw pot

Think I would have just called MP's raise in hopes of filling up on a later street, and even then proceed with caution. If SB comes over the top again on flop I think I would just fold, but that might be just nitty me. I don't think SB would push with less than a set here, overpair with diamond would have probably raised pre-flop and hands for two pair either would have been dumped pre-flop, or can't feel to good after a raise and call/reraise on the flop.

Usually when I encounter these situations it is after a stretch of not hitting anything and I'm like "yeaj, finally flopped a set...' only to loose a bunch of chips.
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