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Old 07-17-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default 400NL - 2ball spots ?


I feel like I'm getting floated even more than at 200; maybe it's in my head; I'm trying to cbet less and double barrel more; anyway, two spots I wasn't sure about maybe 2balling -

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No Limit Hold'em Ring Game (6 max) , 5 players
Blinds : $2/$4

Stacks:
UTG : $392 (Hero)
CO : $688.80
BTN : $229.45
SB : $327.25
BB : $451.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO folds, BTN calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($44, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $33</font>, BTN calls, BB folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($110, 2 players)
Hero ????

I have a nice combo but he's short and if he called with a K he's definitely not folding it.

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No Limit Hold'em Ring Game (6 max) , 6 players
Blinds : $2/$4

Stacks:
UTG : $410 (Hero)
MP : $560.10
CO : $585
BTN : $388
SB : $474.75
BB : $392

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, MP folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($44, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $33</font>, CO calls, BB folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($110, 2 players)
Hero ????

I picked up a gutshot; villain here is TAG but very floaty. Maybe CRAI?
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:25 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

Hand 1:
I think b/c $80 on the turn is fine. C/f river obv if we only get called. It's a pretty sucky board to c-bet in general but with this draw you're probably having about 30% equity when behind anyway, we need ~38% to check/call an all-in (we obv never c/c) but I think he's folding a PP lower than KK or do the mistake by only calling with a king often enough for b/c to be correct. No one folds a king here anyway so him being short isn't really negative.


Hand 2:
I think I c/f. If you know he floats a lot c/r is fine, but that's really read and image dependant etc.


What site do you play? The 2/4 games I play is pretty soft, I rarely need to get fancy because people float a lot etc.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

i think the 1st one is definitely a great spot to double barrel despite him being a bit short and i'd bet here like 75% of the time.

obv standard is c/f but i think c/r in the second one is a great line especially if you know for sure that he is floating alot. just because there are so few hands in his range he can call with because your line is so strong and even if he does you still have some reasonable equity
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

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What site do you play? The 2/4 games I play is pretty soft, I rarely need to get fancy because people float a lot etc.

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I'm in the US [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

hand 1 b/c is nice.

hand 2i generally c/f and bet less on the flop.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

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hand 2i generally c/f and bet less on the flop.

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Eh? Would you c-bet less than 16 in a 22 pot in nl200 3-ways? The flop bet is really standard imo.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

I check behind hand 1 and bet hand 2

Hand 1: villan is short and its a dry flop. The turn changed nothing with respects to his hand value. He isnt folding if he called on the flop.

Hand 2: another relatively dry flop. If villan is floaty, then fire a 2nd barrel. The turn once again didnt change anything, but with your read on villan a bet would be profitable.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

I always 3/4 pot with AHK and feel pretty good about it.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

does anybody knows a good post about floating? explaining what to think when doing it and how to protect against it?
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - 2ball spots ?

hand 1
you guys are nuts. take the freebie. he has a king or most of the rest of his range (unless he calls flop with [censored] like AQ regularly) picked up another pair or an OESD.

hand 2
probably c/f, sometimes c/r.
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