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Old 07-17-2007, 01:47 PM
Womble Womble is offline
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Default 50nl A5s common spot

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $255.95
Hero (BB): $49.50
UTG: $100.72
CO: $27.03
BTN: $78.49

Reads: <font color="blue">Common spot this one. Multiway in a limped pot with TP and no kicker. I was betting to charge flush draws on the flop but am not sure what the best play is.

Can someone give reasoning behind the flop play?

I also thought about betting the turn but think that that is getting a bit spewy, I mean flush draws call but other then that, wihtout a read I think it is spew</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $3.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $7.75
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

I guess I am spewy but I bet like 3.5 on this turn and then I am done after that. I have seen too many times at these limits people calling with middle pair twice or gutshots, and sometimes even bottom pair.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

I find myself in these spots in the BB ALL the time. I never seem to fold the turn in these spots thinking villian is just betting cause I checked he has pos etc. I hate checking turn here for this reason but is there a better way to play this? making another PSB on the turn seems spewy. But there are enough draws on this board to make a turn bet good here IMO. dry board I like c/f more.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

bet the turn.

the fact that he limped otb is a good enough indicator that he probably isnt very solid.

You will get calls from random jacks and sixes aswell as fd to make betting both streets profitable. If he raises you though, fold
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

I would bet out turn for about $3.50 and c/c a river bet of 1/2 pot or less. People at this limit probably take his same line with middle pair.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

I raise it up preflop, charge them for their position.
If the button had an ace preflop, then why didn't he raise it up?
I think you're ahead here, you'll see a flushdraw pretty often.
At least call the turn and look at the river. Call any non-heart card (if the bet isnt outrageous)
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

c/f flop. You're OOP and if someone calls or a raises you're not sure where you are or you're folding anyway. With a read i agree you might play it differently. If you're going to c/f on the turn all the time in this spot, you have to be taking it down on the flop 50% of the time for betting to be EV+. I don't think that's going to happen.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

No offense but I think c/f flop is about as nitty as it gets and it seems like you are just leaving money on the table.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:15 PM
IronOsprey IronOsprey is offline
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

[ QUOTE ]
No offense but I think c/f flop is about as nitty as it gets and it seems like you are just leaving money on the table.

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Not if you are going to c/f the turn to a bet or fold to any raise on the flop. Depends on how you view your average opponent. If you give them credit for not sucking then you are probably saving $. If you view them as sucking then I'd agree.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: 50nl A5s common spot

if you have any stats or history on the villain i think it would help a lot.
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