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Old 07-17-2007, 09:16 AM
MLRTS MLRTS is offline
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Default 100NL - River decision with TPTK

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $65.40
BB: $58.50
UTG: $24.00
Hero (MP): $136.15
CO: $241.60
BTN: $119.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, CO calls $6.00

Turn: ($20.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($20.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $38.00</font>,

What do you put villain on? I thought he was pretty good if i remember correctly, nothing special either way.

I thought for a loooong time but could not figure this one out.

/M
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:18 AM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL - River decision with TPTK

i don't think very many good players take this line with any of their holdings, but i may be wrong. As played fold, i don't think he's value betting JT and he's not bluffing like this unless he's terrible.

This is often QJ or a baaaadly played 2pair IMO, but then this is 100NL so who the hell knows.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - River decision with TPTK

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i don't think very many good players take this line with any of their holdings, but i may be wrong. As played fold, i don't think he's value betting JT and he's not bluffing like this unless he's terrible.

This is often QJ or a baaaadly played 2pair IMO, but then this is 100NL so who the hell knows.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I guess QJ makes a little bit sense. But as you say, a good player would not play anything this way. Anyway, not getting any more replies so here's the hand:

I was confused enough to call (maybe semi-tilt, as usual)

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $65.40
BB: $58.50
UTG: $24.00
Hero (MP): $136.15
CO: $241.60
BTN: $119.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, CO calls $6.00

Turn: ($20.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($20.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $38.00</font>, Hero calls $23.50

Pot Size: $96.50 ($3 Rake)

CO had 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Threes) and WON (+$46.00)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$47.50)

I don't get the call on the flop though, I had been running 12/8 or something. Meh.

/M
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:32 AM
br549007 br549007 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL - River decision with TPTK

Looks like he has pp 88 to QQ to me, or maybe QJ, and waited out the flush draw and hoped you would bet it for him..he could have you on AT to AK? I fold to the pot size reraise.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - River decision with TPTK

When you bet out on the river at it gets raised, FOLD 95% of the time, unless you have a good read on villain that he is capable of bluffraising the river. It is tempting to call but you are almost always beat.
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