Can player action affect deal?

[whymelord]

Hope this is the right forum for this curiosity question.

Does my action (fold, call, raise, cursor position, time to act, etc) have any effect on the "seed" for the RNG?

When I play live, I can see that when the cards are dealt thru the river what hand I would have made if I had not folded, so is that still true online?

Not questioning the randomness of the deal, just want to know if I can use the results to decide if my fold or call was the correct decision.

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Not questioning the randomness of the deal, just want to know if I can use the results to decide if my fold or call was the correct decision.

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You can't even do that live. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[str0kes]

I think what you're trying to ask is if the deck becomes static after the initial pre-deal shuffle, the answer to which is no (for some sites at least). Look for info on your own sites RNG to find out for sure.

[feint06]

I read somewhere that the major poker sites use time as a randomizing factor, so the cards dealt are different if you took more or less time to make a decision.

[Artsemis]

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Not questioning the randomness of the deal, just want to know if I can use the results to decide if my fold or call was the correct decision.

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I'm sorry but your logic is horrible. You're basically saying if you fold AA preflop and a guy with KK hits a K on the flop you made the correct decision.

You don't need to see the results to know if your decision was correct or not.

[PLOlover]

I've heard UB is random so you can't tell whether you would have hit the flop but pokerstars is fixed so you would have flopped the same flop if you didnt fold.

[stigmata]

i heard that on party/stars, this is the case, and your action is used to seed the rng. Of course, it is of no consequence.

However, it can be psychologically useful to help ignore the randomness of the game, e.g. if i fold my KQ and the flop comes KQQ, then I don't really care or become emotionally involved - after all, if I had called, the flop would have of course come 567.

[whymelord]

yes, that is really my goal, So I can say "well my fold was correct and I can ignore the reality staring at me when it appears I would have made the nuts because it would have been different if I had stayed in"


Yes, I realize past results should not influence correctly made decisions....but I'm human and a little superstitious....

[meleader2]

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yes, that is really my goal, So I can say "well my fold was correct and I can ignore the reality staring at me when it appears I would have made the nuts because it would have been different if I had stayed in"


Yes, I realize past results should not influence correctly made decisions....but I'm human and a little superstitious....

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we all start as fish. good luck.

[sooberz]

On Absolute Poker you can see the next street if the hand is finished on the flop or turn. So i assume this site uses a "fixed" deal.