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Old 07-16-2007, 09:41 PM
ElDuque ElDuque is offline
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Default QQ88 -- single suited in EP (6max)

Is this generally going to be profitable to raise with a hand such as this in early position versus weak opponents playing 6max .25/.5?

Flopping the set of Q's is obv ideal, but flopping a flush draw or 888 seams like trouble against any sort of pressure. Plus, outside thrird nut flush there wont be any other drawing with this hand.

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Old 07-16-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: QQ88 -- single suited in EP (6max)

I've only played like 10K hands of Omaha so I might be totally off but....

Whether to raise or fold preflop in Omaha (assuming reasonable stacks) isn't that important. I do the thing that makes my opponents uncomfortable. If they get nitty when faced with raises, I raise a lot. If they call raises with anything and play well postflop, I tend to avoid raising at all when I'll be out of position. If they will limp in but then give tons of action with weak hands, I don't need to raise preflop at all to get my money in good later. Obviously, people aren't that polarized with their play but spotting tendencies and adjusting to them is the name of the game.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: QQ88 -- single suited in EP (6max)

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I've only played like 10K hands of Omaha so I might be totally off but....

Whether to raise or fold preflop in Omaha (assuming reasonable stacks) isn't that important. I do the thing that makes my opponents uncomfortable. If they get nitty when faced with raises, I raise a lot. If they call raises with anything and play well postflop, I tend to avoid raising at all when I'll be out of position. If they will limp in but then give tons of action with weak hands, I don't need to raise preflop at all to get my money in good later. Obviously, people aren't that polarized with their play but spotting tendencies and adjusting to them is the name of the game.

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Well said. I like it.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: QQ88 -- single suited in EP (6max)

About the actual hand, I pot this from any position, sometimes even the blinds.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:45 PM
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About the actual hand, I pot this from any position, sometimes even the blinds.

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What type of flop are you looking for?
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: QQ88 -- single suited in EP (6max)

One with 3 cards, so I can c-bet and either have the best hand or have villains fold.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:16 AM
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One with 3 cards, so I can c-bet and either have the best hand or have villains fold.

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Thanks for nothing.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: QQ88 -- single suited in EP (6max)

You raise so that your opponents can't put you on AAxx or 789T, or so that if they do and the flop comes Q34, you stack them. Otherwise, on most obviously dryish flops (especially ones with one high card (A58 etc.), your c-bet will take it down.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: QQ88 -- single suited in EP (6max)

As in NLHE, the PFR traditionally takes the pot down because even though you have 4 cards it is still difficult to hit a meaningfull flop and you will often take the pot down with a cbet and when you don't you are unlikely to lose much more than the cbet because you are raising a fit or fold hand.

Also your hand is well disguised when you do hit the flop so you can expect people to draw thin or even raise you drawing dead when you do flop a set since they are certain their two pair is good.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: QQ88 -- single suited in EP (6max)

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One with 3 cards, so I can c-bet and either have the best hand or have villains fold.

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Thanks for nothing.

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If by nothing you mean like where lots of the money comes from.

double pairs are premium hands. I like Ghazban's post though. You can be creative.
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