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Old 07-16-2007, 07:27 PM
YanMTL YanMTL is offline
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Default Value bet possible on this river?

Do you think i can value bet the river?

The other player was the worst calling station i ever saw since a long time. When he donked the flop, you can be sure he has a Q in his hand, he can't fold if he has a pair no matter the board or the strenght you showed. We were not bluffing him at all and when we check, he check back a lot. So he never bluff or semi-bluff. At least in the 30 minutes we played.


Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
Hero raises</font>, 1 fold[/i]</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q, 3, 9 2 players)</font>
BB bets</font>, Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) A 2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 6
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: Value bet possible on this river?

Very easily.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Value bet possible on this river?

If he checks the river I'm betting it all day. I don't understand why you gave this long lead-in about his bluffing tendencies when what we're really concerned with is his calling frequency.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: Value bet possible on this river?

most decent flushes donk the river which is why u can vb
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Value bet possible on this river?

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most decent flushes donk the river which is why u can vb

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I agree but can even a calling station call this river without a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]???

I was thinking that even if i bet, he will fold his Q and call only with a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], something like Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] which he won't bet but call with.

Basicaly, i can't see a hand calling my bet here. it is why i wasn't sure if it is an EV+ bet on the river...
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Value bet possible on this river?

if he is the worst calling station you've ever seen, he will certainly call you any Q there. (assuming you have seens a fair number of calling stations in your day)
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: Value bet possible on this river?

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I agree but can even a calling station call this river without a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]???

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I consider myself a nit and have a low WTSD, and I've made calls on four flush boards without a flush when I felt it was justified. Against a huge calling station, this is an easy bet here.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Value bet possible on this river?

value betting here is bad thsi guy checks tons of better hands to u and even idiots can find folds with like black fours here most of the time
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:34 AM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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value betting here is bad thsi guy checks tons of better hands to u and even idiots can find folds with like black fours here most of the time

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You're way off. Like really really really wrong.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: Value bet possible on this river?

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value betting here is bad thsi guy checks tons of better hands to u and even idiots can find folds with like black fours here most of the time

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I've seen idiots call in this spot with hands like J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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