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Old 07-16-2007, 11:02 AM
Pomtidom Pomtidom is offline
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Default 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

Villain is 20/13/1.5 over 100 hands, I have no notes on him which probably means he hasn't done much special or I didn't notice it. I haven't seen him 3-bet at this table yet.

I'm running at 21/17/3 and have not been getting out of line.

Villain 3-bet me from the SB the previous hand, when I opened OTB. I folded my KTo to his 3-bet.

Onto the hand (no converter so bare with me):
5-handed; I open for $7 from CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], villain makes it $24 to go OTB, I call.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (Pot: $48)
Hero checks, villain bets $30, Hero calls $30.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]: (Pot: $108)
Hero checks, villain checks.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]: (Pot: $108)
Hero checks, villain bets $60, Hero folds.

I didn't 4-bet preflop because I thought he would be less inclined to 3-bet me light since he 3-bet me the previous hand. Also he could see me wanting to play back at him because he 3-bet me twice in a row.

I felt I played this pretty weak and my hand is so transparent, thoughts on all streets welcome. Thanks!

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Forgot to mention stack sizes: villain has 100BB, I cover.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

I only call oop pf for set odds, which you don't have here with 1bb (you didn't give stack sizes).
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

unless he backed into some backdoor crap, his river bet doesnt make any sense, thus i call.

stacks?
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:16 AM
Sly_Fox Sly_Fox is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

As played I think he shows KK/QQ/AQ/AK more often then not after betting so you have to fold river.

Also, if he is the player who folds something like jj/qq/kk to a river bet you have to lead on the river.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:19 AM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

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unless he backed into some backdoor crap, his river bet doesnt make any sense, thus i call.

stacks?

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Many villains will implement this line on the turn with JJ-KK, and bet the river for value with QQ+.

OP,

Tbh, there isnt much you can do here in this spot. You played the hand very well against a TAG with a TIGHT 3betting range.
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Pomtidom Pomtidom is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

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As played I think he shows KK/QQ/AQ/AK more often then not after betting so you have to fold river.

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That was exactly what I was thinking, looks like QQ/KK trying to get some value out of my obvious JJ/TT/99.

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Also, if he is the player who folds something like jj/qq/kk to a river bet you have to lead on the river.

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I thought about crai on the turn (as a bluff obviously), because I think he'd only call with an A.

Then on the river I thought about leading to get him of his JJ/QQ/KK, but I figured my hand is so transparent that he would snapcall.
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:12 PM
mrjetguy mrjetguy is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

Do people like playing a big pot OOP w/ TT? I think pf needs to be better considered.
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:18 PM
tarheeljks tarheeljks is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

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Do people like playing a big pot OOP w/ TT? I think pf needs to be better considered.

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you want to fold to the 3bet?
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

donk the flop, or min c/r it
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: TT OOP in 3-bet pot

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Do people like playing a big pot OOP w/ TT? I think pf needs to be better considered.

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Sounds like he had set odds to call (assuming villian has a higher PP) so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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