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Old 07-15-2007, 05:57 PM
Weir Weir is offline
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Default Hands against bad people who minbet 100NL??

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BB ($59.75)
Hero ($103.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.50, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($22) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $92.35</font>, BB calls $18.75 (All-In).

River: ($163.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $163.10

guy is 18/7/3..............and appears to suck


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UTG ($60.40)
Button ($114.50)
Hero ($101.85)
BB ($19)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($15) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, UTG calls $16.

River: ($55) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, UTG calls $33.40 (All-In).

Final Pot: $128.40

guy is 40/0 and appears to suck


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BB ($18.30)
UTG ($241.20)
MP ($44.70)
Hero ($123)
SB ($199.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, MP calls $7.

Turn: ($25.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($25.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $64</font>, MP calls $19.70 (All-In).

Final Pot: $122.20

same guy as in first hand



help me plz.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:05 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: Hands against bad people who minbet 100NL??

River raise in the last hand is spew imo. First two looks fine
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: Hands against bad people who minbet 100NL??

also about the 4th straight time i get minraised on my CBET after flopping TPTK, am i allowed to do this?


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MP ($51.10)
CO ($60.85)
Button ($132.45)
Hero ($100)
BB ($137.05)
UTG ($112.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $5, Button calls $5.

Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $94</font>, Button calls $66.

Turn: ($207) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($207) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $207

b/c i can't imagine folding every single time you get raised, it doesn't seem like the best way to play.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:18 PM
Dire Dire is offline
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Default Re: Hands against bad people who minbet 100NL??

1st hand there's nothing else to do against that short of a stack.

2nd hand the turn check raise kind of stinks since marginal made hands and big clubs make up a decent part of his range that are just going to check behind on the turn - but may call a bet.

3rd hand is read dependent. If he's one of those guys that would then lead the river with A5 once you check the turn (and obv call his stack on the river because he has top pair) then it's fine. If he has any concept of river play then just calling is probably better.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Hands against bad people who minbet 100NL??

4th hand looks fine if you have a read he's been minraising alot of your cbets. There's a ton of hands you're ahead of, and too many scare cards on the turn to do anything but shove.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Hands against bad people who minbet 100NL??

first: looks fine

second hand: don`t push so hard you want to keep the pot as small as possible, he will not call you down with a worse hand then yours.

third: bet the turn and don`t raise the river
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:33 PM
Fistdantilus Fistdantilus is offline
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Default Re: Hands against bad people who minbet 100NL??

Hand 1 is fine
Hand 2, the checkraise is terrible for reasons already mentioned.
Hand 3, just call river as even if villain is bluffing, he can't call your raise without a decent ace/jack/str8.

Hand 4:

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also about the 4th straight time i get minraised on my CBET after flopping TPTK

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If it's the same guy, YES. Otherwise it's probably spew. Remember that you've bet into 2 players: it's very different than HU. Their hands will be stronger here than normal.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:34 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: Hands against bad people who minbet 100NL??

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River raise in the last hand is spew imo. First two looks fine

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