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Old 07-15-2007, 03:18 PM
TheGoon TheGoon is offline
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Default KK against overcard. Is this spew?

Been sitting with villain for about 6/7 orbits. Seem to limp to much but doesn't have loose raising standards. Don't have any stats on him.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: 9.25 BB, between MP2 and Hero.</font>
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:24 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

what is your logic behind raising the flop?
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

Standard. Make a note of what he called down with.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:37 PM
TheGoon TheGoon is offline
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

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what is your logic behind raising the flop?

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I usually fold on the flop in this situation but it seems weak to give up so easily in a raised pot. It does feel like the bettor nearly always has a Ace in this situation.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

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what is your logic behind raising the flop?

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I usually fold on the flop in this situation but it seems weak to give up so easily in a raised pot. It does feel like the bettor nearly always has a Ace in this situation.

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yeah i wouldnt fold it for one...did you consider just smooth calling?
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

I think it's fine, you raised and got a free card on the turn. And you might have eliminated draws. Villain might be on a draw himself. The rest is trying to get a cheap showdown. Therefore just check the turn. You might have to call one bet on the river, then do it.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

Never fold. Flop raise is good. You want to take this to showdown cheaply, so your line was correct. Good play.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

looks ok - as passively as opponent has played turn and river I'd probably value bet the river.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

looks good to me and I like the river check behind.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: KK against overcard. Is this spew?

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looks ok - as passively as opponent has played turn and river I'd probably value bet the river.

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yep, bet river.
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