Two minreraise hands

[Al_Money]

Assume both villains are loose and bad, and that this is their first time pulling this move. I have good draws but probably not much fold equity. So what's my line in these spots, also note stack sizes. Both villains have 50bbs.

SB: $117.95
BB: $100.00
UTG: $212.45
Hero (CO): $254.55
BTN: $380.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00

Flop: ($25) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $25.00</font>, Hero?


SB: $204.90
BB: $96.50
UTG: $377.85
Hero (BTN): $197.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00

Flop: ($25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $25.00</font>, Hero?

[Sly_Fox]

Is folding both that bad of a line?

[ofishstix]

i call both. what eles coudl you ever be doing?

[Al_Money]

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i call both. what eles coudl you ever be doing?

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I'm wondering if we have the correct odds to do so, considering they are shoving the turn pretty much always with their stacks.

[GBP04]

if they are shoving the turn always, calling is super +EV

[RUDIKULOUS]

We hit on the turn like what...16% of the time on both?

If we miss the turn we lose 37, if we hit we win 113?

I suck with the math but i think a call is -EV if they're always shoving the turn.

[FishSticks]

On the first hand I wouldn't hate a call, just because with that ace-rag-rag board I don't think he's going to bet the turn again without the ace, and will c/f a fair amount of time. I wouldn't mind a push here either, as I think he'll just automuck mid/big pairs.

The 2nd hand I'd just fold it.

[GBP04]

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We hit on the turn like what...16% of the time on both?

If we miss the turn we lose 37, if we hit we win 113?

I suck with the math but i think a call is -EV if they're always shoving the turn.

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I was completely wrong. I thought this was 200NL and BB had a full buy in.