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Old 07-13-2007, 11:53 PM
FF_Woodycooks FF_Woodycooks is offline
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Default (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage

No hands on villain, he seemed like a semi-donk though.

Seat 1: BB (Villain) ($144.70)
Seat 2: UTG ($54.90)
Seat 3: UTG+1 ($159.70)
Seat 4: CO ($266)
Seat 5: Button ($135.70)
Seat 6: FF_Woodycooks($195.15)
FF_Woodycooks posts the small blind of $1
Villain posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FF_Woodycooks [2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
UTG raises to $4
UTG+1 calls $4
CO folds
Button folds
FF_Woodycooks calls $3
BB calls $2
*** FLOP *** [2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
FF_Woodycooks bets $12
BB raises to $52
FF ??
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage

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No hands on villain, he seemed like a semi-donk though.

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I think you need to watch my video. You called a preflop raise with pocket deuces from the small blind (the worst position in poker) . Until you stop doing this, offering you any other advice about the hand is pointless.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:11 AM
FF_Woodycooks FF_Woodycooks is offline
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Default Re: (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage

If one person had limped , would you call for $1 from SB with double suited and a pair? It's the same thing. Minraise, a call, and BB is almost certainly going to call, so that's quite good enough odds for me.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage

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If one person had limped , would you call for $1 from SB with double suited and a pair? It's the same thing. Minraise, a call, and BB is almost certainly going to call, so that's quite good enough odds for me.

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How do you ever expect to be in a situation where you can value bet a 3 high flush or a queen high flush? Can you ever value bet 23 on a 456 board? Can you ever value bet 22 on a K52 board?
Thing is, you can't felt any of these hands, so why are you playing it in the first place?
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage

I hate to agree with Ribbo but in this instance he is right. Your hand has almost no value. It's a win a small pot/lose a big pot hand. Most of the biggest losers in my database complete the SB far too often with hands such as these and lose tens of thousands in the SB.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:47 AM
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I hate to agree with Ribbo...

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If you learned to drop that from any sentence you start the forum would be a better place. You're stuck in the past. Learn to move on.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage

Simmer down and go shuffle your magic deck or something.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage

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Simmer down and go shuffle your magic deck or something.

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Fine, you want to be a prick forever, I can do that.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage

bailing is good unless villain gets out of line a lot.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: (1/2 6m) Bottom set spot on rainbow floppage


you are behind a KK hand and a 55 hand so it seems a clear fold situation, on the other hand you are not a clear favourite, the only way you have to be a clear favourite is to catch a deuce on turn, every other card will put you in trouble... if he reraise with a double pair is ok, but i would have folded this
Consider also your starting hand was only 9 hutchinson point (15 needed to call), it isn't a good starting hand without position...
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