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Old 07-13-2007, 09:08 PM
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The question here is not "how would you play it?" but rather, how does your read of this player affect the hand range you'd put him on...obviously this is not a situation where we can make any sure conclusions, so a percentage guess is the best we can hope for...


Live 10-200 spread limit game, 9 handed. Fairly tight game with careful players, no obvious fish. Hero is probably the best player at the table. Player A may be weak, or just unlucky. Seems to overplay his hands a bit.

Player B just sat down and posted to play his first hand. He came from another table (didn't see which one) and tried to start with $200 in chips until the dealer informed him that the min buy-in is $400, so he bought $200 more.

UTG+2 Player A: $750.
UTG+3 Hero: $1600.
UTG+4 Player B: $400.

Blinds $10. Player A calls, Hero raises to $50, Player B calls.

Flop: Ks Jd Th

Player A checks. Hero bets $100. Player B calls and tries to go all-in for his remaining $250 until dealer reminds him that the max bet is $200. Player A reraises $200.

Hero is holding AA. What I want to know is not what he should do, but what should he make of the action so far, especially Player B:

Is Player B:
a spaz?
trying to isolate hero?
overplaying a fair hand?
betting a big hand?
other

and how does the estimated likelihood of each of these change with the situation?

Is Player A with his big check-raise:
being a spaz?
overplaying a fair hand?
betting a huge hand?
trying to isolate B?
other
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: Read the new guy

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Hero is probably the best player at the table.

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Lol

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Is Player B:
a spaz?
trying to isolate hero?
overplaying a fair hand?
betting a big hand?
other

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Is Player A with his big check-raise:
being a spaz?
overplaying a fair hand?
betting a huge hand?
trying to isolate B?
other

[/ QUOTE ]

I think Player A's range is 2pr/combo-draws/lower str8


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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

78,210 games 0.063 secs 1,241,428 games/sec

Board: Ks Jd Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.849% 47.51% 00.34% 37160 263.00 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 52.151% 51.81% 00.34% 40524 263.00 { KTs+, Q9s+, JTs, KTo+, Q9o+, JTo }
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Hmm ... I thought we were toast against that range, but seems we have oods to get it in.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:15 AM
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You can't stove it without considering the 3rd player. Even if he's a spaz, he could have most of your outs blocked.
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: Read the new guy

Third player has 40bb and initially tried to buy-in for 20bb. He probably can't even spell "poker".
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:22 PM
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Third player has 40bb and initially tried to buy-in for 20bb. He probably can't even spell "poker".

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That's pokor for you.

The third player was me and I had an ace-high straight. After looking silly with my short buy-in, I figured the most likely way to triple up was to throw all my money in and hope I looked like...well, basically I was hoping they'd think what you thought. Unfortunately, Player A knocked out the pocket aces with his silly reraise.
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:26 PM
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Third player has 40bb and initially tried to buy-in for 20bb. He probably can't even spell "poker".

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That's pokor for you.

The third player was me and I had an ace-high straight. After looking silly with my short buy-in, I figured the most likely way to triple up was to throw all my money in and hope I looked like...well, basically I was hoping they'd think what you thought. Unfortunately, Player A knocked out the pocket aces with his silly reraise.

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gotcha?
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:46 PM
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gotcha?

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Yeah, yeah...but back to the original question: would you be more likely to call a big raise from a player who did what I did? Or should I have slowplayed it?
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Old 07-14-2007, 05:10 PM
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given your stack size i think you are getting paid here no matter what
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