Nearing the bubble, JTo on the button makes 2nd pair

[PoBoy321]

This is from a Stars 10+1 6-max tourney. Started with about 725 players, now down to 79 and 66 get paid.

Comments on pre-flop and flop are welcome. I wasn't sure whether or not this was necessarily a push/fold situation or not, so I made a standard 3BB raise, then caught a little piece of the flop.

What's your action?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (5 handed) converter

MP (t15564)
Hero (t6988)
SB (t12305)
BB (t5338)
UTG (t10049)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1800</font>, SB calls t1500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t3500) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...

[shag]

I think this is way ahead/way behind. calling here sucks. raise or fold. If you raise you commit yourself. Odd bet from the sb but Im guessing he hit his K but he might just be trying to pick it up. Absent of any reads i lean towards folding. Although its really either way. Tough choice.

[iloseulose]

any reads on the SB?

[PoBoy321]

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any reads on the SB?

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He seemed reasonable. I hadn't seen him play post-flop much. He's folded to all of my blind steals.

[iloseulose]

if u havent seen much post-flop action from the SB in a 6-handed table, then he seems pretty tight. which makes me believe hes got KT/QJ or something. i think with 11x BB, ur raise should be all-in PF and just take the blinds. the problem with the 3x raise PF here is that u have committed 1/3 of ur chips to this pot. even a simple minimum t600 weak lead is a big problem for u now. if he had nothing, i think he would go allin hoping u didnt hit or u had a medium pp that u can fold since 2 overs hit the board. even though his t600 bet seems weak, it still looks like he has u beat...oh well, id fold reluctantly

[nath]

This bet is like never a K. Raise. It's a cheap draw or a crappy pair.

[PoBoy321]

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This bet is like never a K. Raise. It's a cheap draw or a crappy pair.

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If it's a raise, how much? Push?

[THEOSU]

Clear push. You've 5100 after raising. Any raise commits you. So commit yourself.

As nath said, this is almost never a king. It is usually "man, I hope you fold, but I don't want to put a whole lot of chips in there trying to get you to fold." Occasionally it's a draw, though the only real draw is QT.

[stevepa]

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I think this is way ahead/way behind. calling here sucks.

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I probably push here because this is often a draw or because he won't continue betting unless he makes a better hand than you but the above is NOT an argument for raise/fold.

Steve