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Old 07-13-2007, 01:39 AM
yntm3 yntm3 is offline
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Default 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $29.36
BB: $10.31
UTG: $11.39
CO: $13.33
Hero (BTN): $26.47

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 75/7/1 over 30 hands.

I decide to raise the limpers with A9 on the button and we see a flop heads up when the SB just calls pre-flop.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.35</font>, SB calls $1.25, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.45) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.45</font>, hero?

What is the best move here?
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

I'd call but be ready to fold on turn if he continues with aggressive betting.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

I'm a nit but I'd fold
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

Anyone like a re-raise NOW to figure out where we are at?
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

I can't believe I am going to say this...

BUT against this type of loose passive villain I like a MIN RAISE to maintain control of the pot and allow me to MOST LIKELY check behind on the turn(thus controlling the size of the pot) and re-eval the river action..I like the min raise(or slightly over) because this villain is very unlikely to shove a draw on us or shove with a hand that we beat..
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

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I can't believe I am going to say this...

BUT against this type of loose passive villain I like a MIN RAISE to maintain control of the pot and allow me to MOST LIKELY check behind on the turn(thus controlling the size of the pot) and re-eval the river action..I like the min raise(or slightly over) because this villain is very unlikely to shove a draw on us or shove with a hand that we beat..

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I actually raised to $9. Does this qualify? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I wonder what everyone else thinks about this.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

I dislike it. Your hand is now a bluff....I think you have to think that he has a draw a large portion of the time for a raise to be good here.

I much prefer calling and reevaluating turn.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

i'd personally just dump it on the flop. everything you know about him so far indicates that he's a passive player. passive players aren't usually going to 3bet you pf with a better ace, and usually aren't going to make a pot sized bet into you with a worse ace. the good news is that as many hands as he plays, you'll have better info on him pretty quickly.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: 25nl A-high flop heads up with weak kicker (A9o)

also a passive player is unlikey to bet out with a draw too.. but over 30 hands we can not conclude what kind of player he is.
i think folding and calling are both close decisions, i tend to like calling more in this situation
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:03 AM
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I dislike it. Your hand is now a bluff....I think you have to think that he has a draw a large portion of the time for a raise to be good here.

I much prefer calling and reevaluating turn.

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Raising does not turn our hand into a bluff..This villain will call our raise with draws, weaker Aces and may be even a J(or other under pair)..A raise on the flop will likely be cheaper then calling a larger bet on the turn from a villain that appears to like to mash the pot button...I am using a small raise for value,pot control and of course info..A flop raise will also if we choose often allow us to showdown our hand(which we want to do)without putting any more money into the pot...A passive villain will fear we either have a set or a bigger Ace then he has and go into check call mode..

What are you going to do on the turn when villain leads again?????
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