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Old 07-12-2007, 07:57 PM
billzfan86 billzfan86 is offline
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Default NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

Villian is a 13/8/7 regular mutlitabler (I assume hes a 2+2er but dont know his name on here). He loves to play super aggro against me when either im in late position and open, blind versus blind situations or when he opens in late position. So anyways recently i have played slightly less agressive then i normally do but you know how first impressions are lol. So I flat him here with the intention of popping any flop. When he 3 bets me small I sit there and think for a second of his hand range, which i think is 90% either weird 2 pair hand or air (i think he plays draws and 1 pair hands differently with a bigger 3 bet). So I decide theres a good chance that he made such a small raise to not price himself in on my shove (it was just about 2-1 for him to call) and that he made the 3 bet becuase he know i can pop him with air a lot of the time. Anyways i guess my question is do u think if i was gonna make a play at him should i have flatted him on the flop and shoved his turn bet. Given images does anyone think Im spewing here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($89.45)
UTG ($90.70)
UTG+1 ($100.65)
MP1 ($60.60)
MP2 ($153.70)
CO ($98.50)
Button ($127.60)
SB ($105.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($8) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $85.45</font>,
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:04 AM
billzfan86 billzfan86 is offline
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Default Re: NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

bumpin this becuase I havent gotten one response to it yet and this was the most interesting hand i played all week
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:40 AM
Thrahl Thrahl is offline
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Default Re: NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

Reload PF.

Once he comes over the top of your flop raise you have to let this go. You know He views you as aggro, you're in a blind war and the board is extremely draw heavy. Given all this do you think he leads the flop, 3bets and then is going to fold to a push getting 2 to 1, often enough to make this a profitable play?
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

I don't think villain is looking to get away from this hand with the minreraise, I think he wants to get more money in the pot.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

I'm interested to know why you 3 bet flop rather than call and float?
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

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I'm interested to know why you 3 bet flop rather than call and float?


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this player and i have history he knows im agressive in late position and blind situations and i know he is visversa, he would be very very likely to double barrel me. And his min repop screams monster or nothing becuase he did bet just enough to give him room to fold, if he made it even 10 dollars more i fold becuase hes not folding to a shove with anything resonable, also i didnt put him ona draw but when i shove i dont think he can naked flush draw assuming hes not on a combo draw because he should put me on a big hand (2 pair+) with a 5 bet (i get confused on if its a 4 bet or 5 bet) in that hand. 98% of other players i would prolly either raise preflop or float flop and bet turn if checked to. But this is why im askin, I dont think he can call with naked flush draw against my range so I thought shove would be good becuase much of his range is air or naked draw
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

Too spewy. Villain likes his hand, and your fold equity is close to zero. You can't put villain squarely on a naked flush draw or air.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:45 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

I 3bet pre usually. On the flop mix calling and floating and raising. Once he 3bets, fold; shoving here is spewy.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: 4 bet bluff in blind versus blind against aggro regular

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