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Old 07-12-2007, 12:24 PM
shakyamuni shakyamuni is offline
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Default 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

Before you read this, take note - I'm an sng player, getting into cash, I probably have less than 20k hands under my belt at 10NL - so things might take a bit more explaining for me...

Villain open raises more than 1/3 of the time he gets the chance from any position... (no PAHUD, on a mac [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $25.25
UTG+1: $51.15
MP1: $24.75
MP2: $18.65
MP3: $12.35
Hero: $29.45
Button: $23.75
SB: $21.50
BB: $23.65

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $0.5</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.85, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $2.25</font>, hero?

Whats the standard line here?
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:46 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

My knee jerk is to say this is a RIO situation, not much upside and could be expensive.

But against this villain, with such a wide range, I might go into call down mode as long as he doesn't make any big bets.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:49 PM
the_rookie the_rookie is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

So he's a lag then. Tough hand because he might be the type to fire a second barrel if you just call the flop. I guess we could raise the flop here, but I'm not sure if it will help because almost any hand he bets here, he should be willing to 3-bet all in with a strong draw, or a made hand.

I'm leaning towards just calling the flop and seeing what happens on the turn. I definitely do not want to play a big pot with just TP/TK though.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

stacks?
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:52 PM
negtv capability negtv capability is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

Your stack sizes would be pretty important here. I think w/ the 3 hearts it's wise to slow a bit. I'd call the flop and see what the turn brings.
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:09 PM
CazicT CazicT is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

How's he acted post flop? My first reaction is that his bet size is not a protection sized bet, it is a blocking size or value size bet. Does he often bet 1/2 the pot, some people just do this regardless?

If he is laggy postflop, I'd probably call and see a turn. Heck i'd probably call the turn on a non-heart too.

He probably has a heart, but i'm not certain enough to want to raise to protect my hand. I'd rather keep the pot small so I can get away from this later in the hand if I need to.

Seems too weak to dump this on the flop.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

I raise flop, check turn, call reasonable river bet.
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:17 PM
jhill3535 jhill3535 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

The worst case scenario in my opinion is that he is freerolling you with AxKh, but that is probably worst case. With a made smaller flush if he is betting into you it is to protect against another heart coming and the bet is probably a bit larger as any face heart is probably calling this bet here.

Would this villian lead into you with the nuts here? I probably would, as it would be the best way to build the pot. KhQh is a possibility.

Also he could have a hand like AxQh or AxJh. We are a slight favorite over these hands but not as much as we would like to be.

He could just be making a stab with a worse Ace or bluffing the board.

My standard line would be to raise the flop and check the turn or call the turn and river unless another heart comes and then I would bet(bluff)/fold.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:04 PM
jcg2005 jcg2005 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

[ QUOTE ]
My knee jerk is to say this is a RIO situation, not much upside and could be expensive.

But against this villain, with such a wide range, I might go into call down mode as long as he doesn't make any big bets.

[/ QUOTE ]

Care to explain what a "RIO situation" is please?
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:17 AM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AK on monotone board... warning: noob to cash

Okay, Im raising the flop, checking the turn, and calling any non heart on the river.
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