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Old 07-12-2007, 06:42 AM
Lahmshuffle Lahmshuffle is offline
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Default 33 $: flopped two pair..exemplary hand for wrong slowplay

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO (t2050)
Hero (t2720)
SB (t2830)
BB (t4480)
UTG (t1110)
UTG+1 (t2150)
MP1 (t3120)
MP2 (t1540)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t270</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t170.

Flop: (t590) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t180</font>, BB calls t180.

Turn: (t950) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t2400</font>.

Final Pot: t4150

the flop bet is awful isn't it? as played a fold seems pretty clear...?
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:49 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: 33 $: flopped two pair..exemplary hand for wrong slowplay

Yep, bet waaay more on the flop, in the 400+ range.

As played, it's hard to find many hands that you beat beside QJ / JT / QT / KJ / AK type of hands, but I'm probably not folding against an unknown with so many chips in the pot.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:43 AM
EscapePlan9 EscapePlan9 is offline
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Default Re: 33 $: flopped two pair..exemplary hand for wrong slowplay

I fold PF.

As played... bet about 380 on flop. Bet 650 on turn, fold to the check-raise.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: 33 $: flopped two pair..exemplary hand for wrong slowplay

Def bet ~t420 on the flop.
As played I call the push. There are some hands that you beat. Everything´s possible at Party.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: 33 $: flopped two pair..exemplary hand for wrong slowplay

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I fold PF.

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why ?
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:02 AM
Lahmshuffle Lahmshuffle is offline
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Default Re: 33 $: flopped two pair..exemplary hand for wrong slowplay

i will always raise this preflop on the button in an uncotested pot, smallball...i called and lost against AJ (of course the turn had hit him)...is there anyway i can prevent losing more money...i think he would have called a potsized bet on the flop, i am drawing dead on the turn...
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:06 AM
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is there anyway i can prevent losing more money...

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Play chess ?
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: 33 $: flopped two pair..exemplary hand for wrong slowplay

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is there anyway i can prevent losing more money...i think he would have called a potsized bet on the flop, i am drawing dead on the turn...

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With those hands, Flop, and Turn, I don't see how. That's simply bad luck. However, by betting 450 so on the Flop you'd punish flush and straight draws while(theoretically) get hands like QJ to fold.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 33 $: flopped two pair..exemplary hand for wrong slowplay

A9 is marginal and it's going to cost us about 7x BB (700 chips at this level) to raise pre-flop and toss out a c/b - that's why I fold preflop.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:01 PM
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I agree that you should bet much more on the flop here. You're giving him the perfect price to draw.
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