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Old 07-12-2007, 01:37 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

Villian is 37/5.5/.74 postfop agg. over 146 hands.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($60)
Hero ($79.15)
SB ($53.20)
BB ($42.40)
UTG ($44.70)
MP ($78.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($10.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($26.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $22</font>, Hero ???
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

I'd raise flop just to see where you're at, but I think it's pretty clear that someone with 0.74 AF doesn't reraise pre without a premium hand. You're at best a split here.
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

Just shove it already if you gone this far. Why would you call with a 3bet with AK to pussy out on the turn?
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

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Just shove it already if you gone this far. Why would you call with a 3bet with AK to pussy out on the turn?

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Well I wasn't planning to, but now I have more info then I did before. If the above is your actual logic to push this then i think it's horrible. I'm almost positive I was ahead of or at least not far behind his range pre-flop. However, the question is whether or not I'm ahead of his range on the turn.
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

His pf range looks JJ+ AK. His pfr is 5.5. I don't think you're ahead of his pf range, though you're getting a Vgood price. I'd prob call there too.

As played, I don't mind a call or a fold. He could be bluffing JJ/QQ or have AA. If I call, I obv call any river.
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

I would say that it looks like you are behind his range. His PRF is 5.5 which means he's only raising you w/ premium hands. The fact that you are getting reraised preflop by the villain means that villain can have AA,KK,QQ, and AK. From the way villain played flop and turn, looks like villain has AA,KK, or AK.

I would minraised the flop bet to see where you stand. You would still be able to fold it if villain reraises the minraise.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

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I would minraised the flop bet to see where you stand. You would still be able to fold it if villain reraises the minraise.

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Ugh that is just horrible advice.

Anyway I like how you played it and it's a fold for me now.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

Why is a flop min raise horrible? I like that line more than just flat calling the flop. I'm laying this down on the turn to 37/5.5/.74 ... especially since you have &gt;100 hands
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

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Why is a flop min raise horrible? I like that line more than just flat calling the flop. I'm laying this down on the turn to 37/5.5/.74 ... especially since you have &gt;100 hands

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What does it achieve exactly? It pretty much folds or slows down all hands you beat and all the hands that are ahead are certainly not going to fold to it.
Calling and seeing does he bet the turn achieves the same goal as I don't think he fires 2 barrells with something we beat and it is cheaper then a min raise.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AK TPTK in 3bet pot vs. loose passive who is being aggro

I agree with you, I just think a min raise is cheap here and will give you a better idea of where you're at. Do you fold no matter what amount he bets on the turn?
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