100NL QQ WTF?

[mathemagician54]

villain is 24.8/3.8/12, but no reads.

what is this? do i call/fold this shove?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $153.15
BB: $39.40
Hero (UTG): $110.80
MP: $101.50
CO: $91.50
BTN: $41.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $11.50</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $8.00

Flop: ($24) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $141.65</font>, Hero calls all-in for $82.30
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to SB

Turn: ($222.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($222.60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $222.60 ($3 Rake)

[theplux]

3.8 PF raise im going for the set value here. ai is spewspew vs him. you're wb on his 3b range here.

[ThaHero]

is your 3.8/12 switched around? Should it be 12 pfr and 3.8af? If it isn't this is totally a fold on the flop. How many hands do you have on him?

[stew77]

i call and say thanks for the chips AdKd

[stew77]

i mean ship the chips to AdKd

[mathemagician54]

the stats are correct, his AF is 12.

so are you saying the original flop bet is poor too?

[DonovanMD]

I'm folding to this shove, not sure if its the correct move or not, just over a decent number of hands on villian I have to believe he has a strong hand. Then again though would an aggro shove his diamond draw here?

[wrkingtobegreat]

This flop call looks awful to me:

Board: 5d Td 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.937% 36.55% 02.39% 7237 472.50 { QdQs }
Hand 1: 61.063% 58.68% 02.39% 11618 472.50 { JJ+, AdKd, KdQd }

[wrkingtobegreat]

Even if we add every single suited no-gap diamond connector to villain's range we still have only 40% pot equity.

[Clever Nickname]

I would normally call, but ugh, 3.8 pfr? I think you probably have to fold to the checkraise. This is AA/KK a huge amount of the time.