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Old 07-11-2007, 07:08 PM
KCrow KCrow is offline
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Default 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

I was somewhat unsure of what to do here. I have no history on the villan as they've just sat down on the table. I see my options as either folding or pushing......a call puts almost half my stack in.

Your thoughts...........

Pacific Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.5
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $33.55
CO: $91.7
Button: $56.5
SB: $51.72
Hero: $35.9

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $5.7</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($13.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $11</font>,
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:17 PM
TheSug TheSug is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

I'm just getting started playing NL Cash but this looks very similar to a line I've seen Villains take Limit HE. I wouldn't be surprised if he has A/K, A/Q or 9/9 here. His flop check-raise was to ensure some value and his only line on the turn is to bet and hope you feel attached enough to your hand to have you call/raise. Fold.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:17 PM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

pf is pointless villian isnt goin to fold to a minraise make a standard raise to like 2.5. Id 3bet flop look to get AI. I think you see Ax here (which villian probably will felt or call your 3bet) and flush draws probably make up a big portion of villians range as well so im also 3betin for protection. If villian has 33 or 99 oh well its a cooler. As played id probably push turn.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:18 PM
tme03 tme03 is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

Seems like a simple push to me, don't know what all the confusion is about.

Th only hand you can be worried about is trip 3s if he has hit them you have to pay it off. He most likely has an ace, a worse two pair or a pair and a flush draw.

You have to push here.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:37 PM
J.A.K. J.A.K. is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

Yeah raise more pre. I'm definitely 3 betting/calling shove on flop.

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Old 07-11-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

Buy in full. Raise it up to $2 if you are going to raise. With your stack size I'm just shoving the flop here, your most likely ahead.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

3 bet the flop probably all in, and as you played it, I may assume you were hoping not to see a diamond. Well you didnt, so shove the turn also.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

Push flop, if not, push turn
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:51 AM
KCrow KCrow is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair facing difficult call on the turn

Thanks for the repsonse........by the looks of things I made the wrong call (I folded).

I ran this through poker stove, the results show that I should have pushed.

1,496 games 0.005 secs 299,200 games/sec

Board: 3h Qh Ad 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.698% 61.10% 00.60% 914 9.00 { As9h }
Hand 1: 38.302% 37.70% 00.60% 564 9.00 { 99, 33, AQs-ATs, A3s, KdQd, JdTd, AQo-ATo, A3o }


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1,496 games 0.031 secs 48,258 games/sec

Board: 3h Qh Ad 9d

What would your thoughts be if the stack sizes were 150bb?
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