Two pair gone bad

Rolon · #1 07-11-2007, 09:38 AM

Villain is new to table, no reads. Do I make this call getting the odds?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $585.60
Hero (BB): $439.05
UTG: $229.25
MP: $234.70
CO: $298.70
BTN: $178.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $4.00, MP folds, CO calls $4.00, BTN calls $4.00, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($18) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $8.00, CO folds, BTN calls $8.00, Hero raises to $30.00, UTG calls $22.00, BTN calls $22.00

Turn: ($108) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero bets $80.00, UTG folds, BTN calls $80.00

River: ($268) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets all-in for $64.80, Hero folds

Pot Size: $332.80 ($3 Rake)

schlimazel · #2 07-11-2007, 09:42 AM

getting 5:1, you only have to be good 17% of the time, but you're not good here close to that often.

look at the flop.. it's very dry. what do you think you are ahead of that makes it to the river? 45o? 22, 44, 55? no way.

the flop check/raise is too small though, and the turn bet too big i think. i think if you check/raise the flop a little bigger, you can push the turn for around pot or a little over.

CennyCripple · #3 07-11-2007, 09:49 AM

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getting 5:1, you only have to be good 17% of the time, but you're not good here close to that often.

look at the flop.. it's very dry. what do you think you are ahead of that makes it to the river? 45o? 22, 44, 55? no way.

the flop check/raise is too small though, and the turn bet too big i think. i think if you check/raise the flop a little bigger, you can push the turn for around pot or a little over.

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Agree

Even thou I don't like pushing dry boards with bottom two against two unknown limpers