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Old 07-11-2007, 07:06 AM
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Default NL 25 KK line check

Villan had loose stats over 20 hands but no other reads.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $26.05
UTG+1: $13.10
MP1: $22.65
MP2: $24.65
CO: $28.40
hero: $25
SB: $21.95
BB: $23.65

Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $1.5</font>, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.6, 2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $3</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9.6, 2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero?
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK line check

This is pretty similar to your AA post except here I think you're much more likely to be up against a stronger hand because of the checkraise. Again, I think your turn bet looks a bit weak tho not as bad as the AA hand, otherwise fine as played.

I would like to fold here but the 3.5-1 pot odds say you should probably continue with the hand and see what he does on the river.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK line check

thing is if i call i cant really fold if i call as it will be a 34 pot and will cost me like 7 more on the river. has to be decided now.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK line check

Costs 12.5 to push to win 27.6 = 2.2:1 on your push.

Those are some sweet odds, but I don't think he would minraise you here on the draw so unfortunately that means you are probably beaten.

Also, if you are beaten, you will be drawing pretty thin and possibly very thin. If you are ahead, you will almost certainly have to sweat the river.

I think I can fold here. If villian had pushed I might have an easier time calling, figuring the chances he is on the draw are better. Does this make sense?

FWIW if I was faced with this decision at the table I would probably go with my impulses and push.
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK line check

this is what i did for some reason something in my head said push although i would usually fold here, something about him raising when the heart hit-usually means nothing but anyways i poooshed. But should i be folding?
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:57 PM
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I think I would fold, but I am on the weak-tight diet this week.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK line check

Isn't baluga theorem in effect here? Or do the flush draws change things and make it more likely he is drawing. Anyways I probably reraise 3 bet big here.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:14 PM
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I guess this is a big draw as often as a big hand, like AJ,KJ,QJ hearts
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK line check

[ QUOTE ]
Isn't baluga theorem in effect here? Or do the flush draws change things and make it more likely he is drawing. Anyways I probably reraise 3 bet big here.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the baluga theorem refers to a 3bet on a dry flop.

Sure the turn bet could be a big heart draw, but not half the time I think. Obviously those are the hands you want it to be, but do any of them usually limp/call pf? Mostly pairs behave like that pf.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:45 PM
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i think alot do limp/call yes
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