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Old 07-11-2007, 04:35 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

Villain is battletoad2, a very tight TAG.

My pre-flop call is marginal, but not horrible I think. He didn't raise that much, I have position on him, and JTs is my favorite hand!

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $49.00
BB: $96.50
UTG: $30.20
UTG+1: $25.45
Hero (MP1): $112.50
MP2: $64.15
CO: $122.25
BTN: $99.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

Flop: ($24.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks
<font color="blue"> Obvious check. </font>

Turn: ($24.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, BB calls $17.00
<font color="blue"> Hurray! </font>

River: ($58.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero?

Villain has $67.50 left.

Should I value bet? His hand really looks like AK, and he might call a small bet with that.

I'm thinking bet/fold $20-ish? If he shoves I'm folding despite the great odds because he has to have a FH close to 100% of the time.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:39 AM
crunny crunny is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

I thought you didn't like betting 1/3 pot?

But yeah, thats what i would do.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

Bet $35 he has AK and will call lol
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

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Bet $35

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Old 07-11-2007, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

I was planning to fold if he shoved, so I didn't bet too much.

I bet $21, he called with AK.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

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Villain is battletoad2, a very tight TAG.

My pre-flop call is marginal, but not horrible I think. He didn't raise that much, I have position on him, and JTs is my favorite hand!

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $49.00
BB: $96.50
UTG: $30.20
UTG+1: $25.45
Hero (MP1): $112.50
MP2: $64.15
CO: $122.25
BTN: $99.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

Flop: ($24.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks
<font color="blue"> Obvious check. </font>

Turn: ($24.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, BB calls $17.00
<font color="blue"> Hurray! </font>

River: ($58.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero?

Villain has $67.50 left.

Should I value bet? His hand really looks like AK, and he might call a small bet with that.

I'm thinking bet/fold $20-ish? If he shoves I'm folding despite the great odds because he has to have a FH close to 100% of the time.

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the PF reraise from him is fine. he probably could have pumped it to 14 or something. BT2 doesn't really 3-bet light does he? i think on the river you are crushed. i don't think he 3-bets AK unless he is making a play at you. you are decently aggro PF and post flop, so i guess he could be running this with AK.

honestly, it is hard to tell. he could have been going for the c/r on the flop, but the turn killed his hand, and the river saved it?

i would REALLY really hate to b/f here. would make me sick to suck out and not see SD.

you should have potted the turn. with your aggressive image, he would look you up with 2p and sets, but won't lead out.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:22 AM
King Spew King Spew is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

Where I'm pretty sure I am ahead ( and I safely feel that we are ahead/splitting here) I would bet around 1/3 of what villain has left. Betting half his stack won't get called by a NIT without the str8 (mininmum)on a board like that.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

I currently hate b/f on the river, if you can't stand a ck/raise, don't bet.

Now, if someone could explain to me a good reason for a b/f on the river, I'd love to learn about it. Looks like here it worked out to the goot, this is probably a spot where I miss some $$$, so please, educate me.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

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Now, if someone could explain to me a good reason for a b/f on the river, I'd love to learn about it.

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I have a loose image, so I think I can squeeze some value out of AK/AQ.

If he shoves he has AA/KK, so it's an easy fold.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL, JTs 3-bet pot, value bet river?

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BT2 doesn't really 3-bet light does he? i think on the river you are crushed. i don't think he 3-bets AK unless he is making a play at you.

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Umm, 3-betting AK isn't "light" at all.
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