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Old 07-10-2007, 10:26 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default $60 - L4 AJ

Button was well known and a super nit when it comes to reshoves. Everyone else was unknown. Standard?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t2280)
BB (t1635)
UTG (t1320)
UTG+1 (t1455)
Hero (t1470)
MP2 (t1495)
CO (t2600)
Button (t1245)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], J[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]].
2 folds</font>, Hero raises to t250</font>, 4 folds</font>, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t550) 8[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], Q[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], 4[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]](2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero bets t300</font>, BB raises to t1385</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:31 PM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

Fold preflop too nitty?
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

i limp pf 8 handed conti bet is fine , u`ll take it down a lot of the time obv fold to pushaments
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

i fold pre fwiw
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

I think I fold this preflop also, though I don't think your line is bad.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

Preflop is fine, anyone playing the $60s should be able to profitably play AJo there. And to not play it is giving up too big an edge.

You should have some read from stats or observation on BB by now - or at least a feel from his bet timing. Generally an instacheck means a whiff or draw. If he thinks for a sec. add a little more to CR possibility. If he instacalls your cbet you may want to consider a 2nd barrel. If he thinks for a long time on the flop, then smoothcalls your cbet, you're probably in trouble.

If he's a weak-postflop calling station I'll cbet like you did everytime. If he's aggro I'll check behind. Truly unknown I still cbet most of the time.

Obv you have to fold to the shove unless the guy is 80/60 or something. If you're ahead it's probably not by much.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:25 PM
nickcee nickcee is offline
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

I've been folding it lately from the first few positions. I have been running across some super fish and if I don't hit the ace or better I am just burning chips with my c-bets. As the hand was played, everything looks standard.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

Why open for 250 and not standard opening raise of 300?
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:36 PM
suzzer99 suzzer99 is offline
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

Risk less chips, attain better pot control, with basically the same effect on whether they fold or call.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: $60 - L4 AJ

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Preflop is fine, anyone playing the $60s should be able to profitably play AJo there. And to not play it is giving up too big an edge.

You should have some read from stats or observation on BB by now - or at least a feel from his bet timing. Generally an instacheck means a whiff or draw. If he thinks for a sec. add a little more to CR possibility. If he instacalls your cbet you may want to consider a 2nd barrel. If he thinks for a long time on the flop, then smoothcalls your cbet, you're probably in trouble.

If he's a weak-postflop calling station I'll cbet like you did everytime. If he's aggro I'll check behind. Truly unknown I still cbet most of the time.

Obv you have to fold to the shove unless the guy is 80/60 or something. If you're ahead it's probably not by much.

[/ QUOTE ]

BB looked fairly standard for an unknown, 24/10 after 29 hands. So stuff like QJo, QTs, 66, 77 is in his calling range. But so is A9 A7, KJ, so my c-bet is probably fine. I was actually most interested in preflop, just to see how many are opening AJo from CO+2. I thought I could go either way, but I just looked in PT and found that I have open folded this about 90% of the time over the last month. Guess I just need to play it more.

The thing I liked about this hand is that the button was folding everyting but a monster and stacks are such that it is unlikely that anyone is going to resteal light (everyone around 1500 or more).

It is interesting to see the points you make on bet timing. I've never really paid any attention to it. I do like your point on the instacheck so I'll try to pay more attention and see if I agree.
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