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Old 07-10-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Getting Reraised OOP with Middle pairs

This happened to me 3x yesterday within 3 orbits. It is a common situation that I have surprizingly not really run into much and was not 100% sure what to do. All 3 hands I was OOP and covered by villians.

I have been agressive either open raising/re-raising or folding most hands PF. The table has been mostly folding to my PF raises or 1 or 2 villains at most cold calling every now and then.

My stats are somewhere in the 24/18/4 range (100 hands) for this session.

The 2 villians for the most part seemed to play ABC poker as I saw nothing out of the ordinary that could assist me.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, .25/.50(6 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hand 1 - VILLIAN is 26/14/3 - 85~ hands

UTG ($76.75)
HERO ($52.95)
MP ($44.00)
BUTTON ($82.95) - VILLIAN
SB ($29.65)
BB ($19.80)

Preflop:
Hero is UTG+1 with 8 8

<font color="#666666"> 1 folds </font>, <font color="red"> HERO raises $2.00</font>, <font color="#666666"> MP folds </font>, <font color="red">VILLIAN raises to $6.00</font>

HERO?



Hand 2 - VILLIAN is 33/12/3 - 125~ hands
Villian just won a decent pot the hand before.

HERO ($56.75)
UTG+1 ($44.25)
MP ($80.00) - VILLIAN
BUTTON ($86.75)
SB ($9.25)
BB ($17.25)

Preflop:
Hero is UTG+1 with 6 6

<font color="red"> HERO raises $2.00</font>, <font color="#666666"> 1 fold </font>, <font color="red">VILLIAN raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="#666666"> 3 folds </font>

HERO?


Hand 3 - VILLIAN is same as in hand 1

UTG ($76.75)
HERO ($52.95)
MP ($44.00)
BUTTON ($82.95) - VILLIAN
SB ($29.65)
BB ($19.80)

Preflop:
Hero is UTG+1 with 5 5

<font color="#666666"> 1 folds </font>, <font color="red"> HERO raises $2.00</font>, <font color="#666666"> MP folds </font>, <font color="red">VILLIAN raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="#666666"> 2 folds </font>

HERO?
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Getting Reraised OOP with Middle pairs

I'm calling all three with those in hopes of stacking them. The last hand is a little marginal, but your odds are pretty good of winning 100bb risking 12. Since you have close to 110bb in the first two hands it gives you little better odds. If you were $47 and less i'd say muck everything but the 88's. Even those might be worth mucking.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Getting Reraised OOP with Middle pairs

I should add, if the stats were closer to 13-10, i'd say let them go, but these players seem to be fairly loose. And a lot of players at the lower limits can't let AA-KK go unimproved.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Getting Reraised OOP with Middle pairs

If you are talking strictly about value, I usually fold all of these with 100bb stacks. I may sometimes call to outplay my opponent but setmining OOP in 3bet pots is not a very good idea.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Getting Reraised OOP with Middle pairs

I'd fold them all while sometimes calling the first one in hopes of flopping a set, overpair, or if the opponent c-bets non-stop then I may C/R.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Getting Reraised OOP with Middle pairs

Well not calling any of them is bad too. It doesn't do so hot for table image. I think 4-betting is spew, and if you fold all three you are in a bad spot. You have to play a pot here, especially since he's not playing 13-10, and his opponents are slightly loose. Calling all three might be bad, but folding all three is bad too.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: Getting Reraised OOP with Middle pairs

folding all three is fine, but i'm calling 88.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Getting Reraised OOP with Middle pairs

I ended up folding all 3 hands, but it just didn't feel right. That is why I asked for advise. Thanks all.
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