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Old 07-10-2007, 01:45 PM
J-Bo J-Bo is offline
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Default Flop quads, then get raised!

6-handed 200 NL. I have 200, opponent covers.

Opponent is a solid winning regular. He's fairly tight, though I've seen him raise c-bets with bare, non-nut flush draws.

I think he has exactly 44, or 10-10+. How to extract?

I'm UTG with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

<font color="red"> Hero raises for 8</font>, CO calls, everyone else folds.

Flop 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot: 19)
<font color="red"> Hero bets for 16</font>, <font color="red"> CO raises for 32</font>

What's the plan?
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

If he made a bigger raise I'd fastplay it, but since it's some weak min-raise I'd call and see if he's dumb enough to continue making a move.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

Doubt he has TT+. If he's ok then call and let him try to bluff you off an overpair. If he's great and you have a sick image then you could 3-bet to induce a shove.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

There's no draws so I'd flat call ...
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

Tags will raise you with air here a lot, and normally this is a small pocket pair trying to get you to fold overs but will normally fold to 3 bet.

Id call here.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

At the risk of preempting further input, here's a bit more of the hand...

I'm UTG with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

<font color="red"> Hero raises for 8</font>, CO calls, everyone else folds.

Flop 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot: 19)
<font color="red"> Hero bets for 16</font>, <font color="red"> CO raises for 32</font>, Hero calls.

Turn 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (Pot 83)
Hero checks, <font color="red"> CO bets 27</font> , Hero calls

River 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (Pot 137)

Anyone play the turn different? Checkraise river, or just push?
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

If he has 44, you're not going to have any trouble getting all the money in, so don't worry about that. He's going to be just as itchy to build a pot as you are.

While possible, certainly, I doubt he has an overpair unless it's 99/TT/JJ. More likely is 55-77 or complete air trying to push you off overcards or a medium overpair.

I like flat calling here and checking the turn to let him keep going. If you're really, really confident in your read that he has exact 44/TT+, then I CRAI the turn.

Alternatively, if he's really aggro you can 3bet to like 75ish to get him to shove over the top to push you off of your "obvious overpair."

edit: jeez. cross-post-o-rama. what I get for writing more than a quick post, I guess.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

his turn bet looks like that weak type of bet that is looking to get to showdown for cheap. i don't think he's betting the river too often, so i'd put out a smallish bet of around $50 on the river and hope to somewhat get paid off.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

Raise turn to 70 ...
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Flop quads, then get raised!

You have to bet river.
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