MEDUIM STEAKS thoughts

[RudeboyOi]

hello everybody its been a while

in the past couple months
ive been trying to improve my game
by focusing on blind steal/defense situations

BB vs CO, HJ, button raise

i feel this is a spot where too many players leak money
when the majority of hands played are where you have to
figure out how to extract value with pair/no-pair hands

you want to take lines that maximize fold equity
depending on whether youre in position or are OOP
if youre OOP you want to go about this thru c/r and
if youre in position you want to do it thru raising

c/r air on flop, b/f turn from BB

against a potential steal from a TAG
i prefer c/r with air on Q73 boards but
against a potential steal from a LAG
i prefer c/r with air on QT3 boards

if youre in position on the turn
and your hand has showdown value and
if you raise you cant call a 3bet just
dont raise youre better off calling down

UI when youre OOP, you can c/f more often on the river
because your opponent has the option to check it back
so the majority of the time the bet is goin to be for value
when youre in position, you can call more often on the river
because he may as well keep betting hoping for a fold by a
better hand or b/f themselves on hands that you do beat

checkin thru turn with outs

you raise in the CO with 67s the BB calls
flop comes A59 they check, you bet, they call
turn is a 3, they check, you check

you raise in the CO with 9Ts the BB calls
flop comes A68 they check, you bet, they call
turn is a J, they check, you bet

semibluffing on the turn

youre much less apt to get 3bet if you semibluff raise
a flush draw you pick up on the turn when it is also
a scare card, an AKQ, lets say youre the pfr and
you get c/r on the flop and call his c/r
he bets into you on the turn when a Kd rolls off
that also gives you a flush draw
youre much better off semibluffing in this spot
than if lets say a 3d that doesnt help rolls off
i really like playing a hand like this when i flop one draw
and the turn brings a scare card and another draw
it gives you so many ways to win on the river UI
its like your turn raise puts in your opponents mind
hmm he may have hit the K or he may be semibluffing
so if the new draw completes on the river
you can fire another barrel as a bluff and
youre opponent may make the reasoning well if he was
semibluffing he now has me beat cause it came in
if he wasnt semibluffing then he had me beat anyways
with him pairing the K on the turn and also if you
complete the real draw the one you flopped
you can then bet it for value

some other thoughts here ill keep adding...

[cgrohman]

A.) you raise in the CO with 67s the BB calls
flop comes A59 they check, you bet, they call
turn is a 3, they check, you check

- I would probably bet this turn, depending on the player.

[RudeboyOi]

i find myself getting c/r or called down too often
in the 67s hand but in the other hand i tend to not
get c/r as often and sometimes will fold out better hands
it really depends on what your opponent is willing to
peel a turn with and what he is willing to showdown with

[n.s.]

I actually prefer my steaks "medium rare +" - cooked throughout, but still a hint of pink in the middle. Not charred at all on the outside and no raw bits on the inside.

Seriously, though, good post.

[KitCloudkicker]

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hello everybody its been a while

against a potential steal from a TAG
i prefer c/r with air on Q73 boards but
against a potential steal from a LAG
i prefer c/r with air on QT3 boards

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sounds like a hit Chorus line...sing it brother! i dont care for verse 2 though.

[RudeboyOi]

i tend to rarely cap the turn when im in position and
almost never when i am OOP for balancing reasons

ill cap it in position if my opponent is likely
to fire the river again and i want to get to showdown
but also want to get in one more bet on the big streets
but dont want to have to put in 3 like if
i waited for the river to raise and get 3bet

a lot of the times when i raise the turn and get 3bet
ill either have a made hand or something to draw to
its good for balancing purposes for the times you call
the 3bet and improve on the river and can raise or c/r
depending on whether youre in position or OOP balancing
with the times you already had a made hand and are looking
to either raise the river or c/r depending on your position

[RudeboyOi]

my reasoning here is that LAGgy players
have such a wide range that includes smaller cards
so when the flop comes two big cards i can fire with air
and get them to fold out the lesser portion of their range
but find it unprofitable to c/r with air on these boards
because i tend to get played back against a lot but
against a TAG whos pfr range consists of broadway cards
id rather c/r with air on a more ragged board like Q73

edit: also i might add i defend a large portion of the time

but just watch what im defending with like
i wont defend with K7 against a TAG but will with 59o
however will defend just about anything against a LAG

also dont steal against LAGs only steal against TAGs but
feel free to defend against both but for different reasons

[RudeboyOi]

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I actually prefer my steaks "medium rare +" - cooked throughout, but still a hint of pink in the middle. Not charred at all on the outside and no raw bits on the inside.

Seriously, though, good post.

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hehe i was wonderin if anyone
would say something like that

or just skip over the title completely

thanks for the compliment though

[Maliant]

Defending w/ 59o against a TAG is a losing strat imo.

[RudeboyOi]

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Defending w/ 59o against a TAG is a losing strat imo.

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the point im trying to make here is
when someones range is so narrow
its profitable to play more hands here
as long as the hands you choose to play
are likely to not be dominated, AKA 59o
you dont want to get caught with K7 vs KQ
and spew a lot of chips but wont end up
doing that with like 59 vs his KQ

but it really doesnt matter what you have
its just how well you recognize board textures
that their hand ranges may not connect with

most flops i take against a tight raiser
im usually c/f flop or c/r flop, b/f turn or
c/r flop b/3b turn if i actually have something