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Old 07-09-2007, 04:26 AM
joelav128 joelav128 is offline
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Default rivered flush

Villain is playing 40/11. No specific read, haven't seen him do anything crazy.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($52)
MP ($30.30)
Button ($33.95)
Hero ($57)
BB ($43.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($0.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.8</font>, Hero calls $0.80, BB folds.

River: ($2.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $24.25</font>

What is the best action from here and why?
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:29 AM
shoxbb6 shoxbb6 is offline
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Default Re: rivered flush

push? you have the second nuts....
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: rivered flush

I like a call, smells like nuts to me.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: rivered flush

i call here. if you move in you probably will not be called by a weaker holding and since that will not make more money, just lose more.
although he might have A10 for the straight but you cant be sure.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:48 AM
shoxbb6 shoxbb6 is offline
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Default Re: rivered flush

I don't think I understand how this can ever be a call. You have the second nuts in a hand where villain can easily a lower flush, set, or 2 pair and you don't want to put more money in?
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: rivered flush

I like the push here aswell, lots of worse hands will call you like sets, 2pair, AJ..
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: rivered flush

Turn is close - may fold theres sometimes

DONT push the river
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: rivered flush

The best decision here should be to fold, the second one is to call. And yeah DONT push here.

definitely smells like nut flush. it takes a real hand to reraise a river check-raiser like yourself
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: rivered flush

Agree with all that call, pot is big enough for j8 sooted and its full tilt tag land lol
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:21 AM
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Default Re: rivered flush

Interseting spot on the river I've thought about a bit recently with near nut hands- though mainly vs decentish villans and/or deep.

Turn I bet sometimes with gtshot+bdoor fdraw but mainly to steal, though 3way check-call is ok.

River I lead - to avoid geting checked through -then you can call the 3bet on the river if u want- I would do this with lower flsuhes and sometimes the rivred aj str8 - and when you are confident ahead u can 4bet/AI.

As played, due to the limeped pot and flop check through I'm not sure what vilan has BUT when he raises a river c/r to 100b 200b deep he says he has you beat - and you're the 1 that looks like drawing - I call and muck myself for not leading the river it as I said earlier it enables us to close the action here/whilst also getting some value.
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