10NL, Pot Control

AJGibson · #1 07-07-2007, 01:52 PM

Villian is very loose, calls too much. How's this line?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $9.90
BB: $10.90
UTG: $9.45
MP: $4.95
CO: $9.35
BTN: $0.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, BTN calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB folds, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $0.40, BTN calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.70) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $0.80, BTN calls $0.80

River: ($3.30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.20, BTN raises all-in to $26.15, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $24.95 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $5.70 ($0.55 Rake)

PRE · #2 07-07-2007, 01:53 PM

PF Raise is weak.

flop bet should be close to pot
turn bet should be close to pot
river bet looks good to block, and as played easy fold onriver

BevillTheDevil · #3 07-07-2007, 02:38 PM

converter messed up or somethin. If it folded to BTN he/she limps then raise from SB is ok id make it .5 tho and i raise it lookin to steal. Flop/Turn bet is good but make them larger like 2/3-PSB. River id probably just c/c a reasonable size bet and probably c/f to larger bet. As played good fold.

AJGibson · #4 07-07-2007, 04:56 PM

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PF Raise is weak.

flop bet should be close to pot
turn bet should be close to pot
river bet looks good to block, and as played easy fold onriver.

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I raised pf because I want to play, post flop, against the BTN; i.e. built the pot without scaring him off.

I bet just less than 1/2 pot as I thought he'd call behind with a lot of hands that I beat. Building the pot too much could easily lead to a difficult decision, given the drawy board.

As played I have an easy fold on the river, if I bet the pot on both the flop and turn: -

Hero (SB): $9.90
BB: $10.90
UTG: $9.45
MP: $4.95
CO: $9.35
BTN: $26.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, BTN calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB folds, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $0.90, BTN calls $0.90

Turn: ($2.70) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $2.70, BTN calls $2.70

River: ($8.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)

Now what? I have $6 left and I could easily be behind, I’ve put too much money in with a fairly weak holding that’s unlikely to get called by anything I beat. But Villian is a muppet so I could find reason to call.

gumpzilla · #5 07-07-2007, 04:58 PM

I think the line is bad against a guy who calls too much. Against that guy, your hand has considerable value, and you want to play it accordingly. I would bet strong on at least the first two streets, and evaluate based on the river. With the one card straight possible, I'd probably c/c the river if the bet was small, and fold to the gigantor overbet.

EDIT: Yes, with that particular river, the larger pot is going to be uncomfortable. But with a lot of other rivers, you're just going to win a good sized hand here.

Gelford · #6 07-07-2007, 06:30 PM

Gumpzilla FTW !

BoozeHound · #7 07-08-2007, 02:42 AM

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PF Raise is weak.

flop bet should be close to pot
turn bet should be close to pot
river bet looks good to block, and as played easy fold onriver.

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I raised pf because I want to play, post flop, against the BTN; i.e. built the pot without scaring him off.

I bet just less than 1/2 pot as I thought he'd call behind with a lot of hands that I beat. Building the pot too much could easily lead to a difficult decision, given the drawy board.

As played I have an easy fold on the river, if I bet the pot on both the flop and turn: -

Hero (SB): $9.90
BB: $10.90
UTG: $9.45
MP: $4.95
CO: $9.35
BTN: $26.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, BTN calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB folds, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $0.90, BTN calls $0.90

Turn: ($2.70) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $2.70, BTN calls $2.70

River: ($8.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)

Now what? I have $6 left and I could easily be behind, I’ve put too much money in with a fairly weak holding that’s unlikely to get called by anything I beat. But Villian is a muppet so I could find reason to call.

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This is overwhelmingly results oriented. Put villain on a range, then make a decision.

However, STOP BETTING LESS THAN HALF THE POT!!!

terencetsao · #8 07-08-2007, 02:51 AM

preflop is spew
bet more on the flop, and turn
you are not controlling the pot size at all
river block bet is good
i also like a check call

maddoc · #9 07-08-2007, 03:16 AM

river c/c 1/3 of pot