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Old 07-06-2007, 11:59 AM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

this is a hand i think i played incorrectly and ill explain my play and why i think it was wrong later. first i want your thoughts. look at the stacks before you respond.


Full Tilt Poker Game #2854075164: $28,000 Guarantee
(21306897), Table 30 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:29:25 ET - 2007/07/04
Seat 1: Hufy1 (6,280)
Seat 2: DejaVu_All_Over (9,847)
Seat 3: Sir_Biddles (5,770)
Seat 4: Bullets-One (4,160)
Seat 5:hero (3,710)
Seat 6: jiaOmoney (3,420)
Seat 7: Roofus Cash (1,180)
Seat 8: da_pipeline (10,975)
da_pipeline posts the small blind of 80
Hufy1 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Ah Ac]
1 fold
Sir_Biddles raises to 480
1 fold

hero?
a) flat calls
b) smallish reraise
c) all in
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

more info...table dynamics? how have you been playing? Will Roofus push if ou flat call??? Need some more info to give an opinion
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

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more info...table dynamics? how have you been playing? Will Roofus push if ou flat call??? Need some more info to give an opinion

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be perfectly honest this is a few days ago i can't recall tbl dynamic but i do remember i was not playing super agressive
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:27 PM
SonofDjugashvili SonofDjugashvili is offline
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

Personally, I would either call or move AI - if you make a small R/R instead of AI, you are playing with your cards face up. Everybody will know exactly what you have (maybe KK, but you know what I am saying).
In your situation (not a great chip position), I would be more inclined to take a chance and play for stacks - that is, call. If you are lucky, the small stack will R/R and you can over-shove.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

Why not 1200 and shove flop?
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

Call, it's a good spot to induce a squeeze, and the veryshortstack has enough to open the action back up when its get to you if he pushes. It's not ideal, you could end up 4 handed, and in fact I'd shove KK here but I think I call AA. This assumes its just a typical online donkament and it doesnt matter that I wouldnt ever flatcall any other hand.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

If the Button is decent at all he should know he has no FE here and won't try a squeeze. If he shoves he has a hand and with how short he is I don't think his shoving range is that much wider than his calling range.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:53 PM
SonofDjugashvili SonofDjugashvili is offline
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

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Why not 1200 and shove flop?

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Because, with your stack, that's just saying "I have rockets, please call me". [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

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Why not 1200 and shove flop?

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Because, with your stack, that's just saying "I have rockets, please call me". [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Not really. You are leaving 2500 behind. That doesn't mean you have AA.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: playing aces :3 options tell me which and why you choose

Buttons calling range might not be wider but the blinds will push wider than they'll call I think, and in an ideal world the initial raiser will call that wider as well if we just call. My point about the button was there's a decent chance he'll shove his chips in, and even if it just folds to the initial raiser who must call+, you then have the option to raise, which is useful.
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