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Old 07-06-2007, 10:49 AM
TheSeeker03 TheSeeker03 is offline
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Default 1/2 NL live: building pot for set

We all know that big pots need big hands. I think the converse would also be true: big hands need big pots.

I think it would be right to build the pot for set, that is, make a small raise that everyone will stay for.

I was sitting in a local soft 1/2 NL live game. I am in BB and get 6 limpers. Everyone has at least $200 in stacks. I have 77. Do I raise? I made it 10. Everyone called and I gave up on it after 2 overcards came.

Everyone like it? would you play 22 the same way?

Anyone care to link posts that discuss building pots for sets, both the right and the wrong way of doing it.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:56 AM
hamburgerHELMUTh hamburgerHELMUTh is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL live: building pot for set

I don't make that raise. If I am making a raise out of the blinds, it is never to bloat the pot so that if I spike I can win a big pot. If I raise out of the blinds it is to try and pick up the dead money or thin the field.

Keep in mind also, that everyone has limped so they probably don't have big hands. Even if you get some money in there preflop they still aren't going to pay you off if you hit the flop unless they connect hard.

That being said if you get called in 6 places you are getting 6-1 on your raise, and you are about 8-1 to flop a set so you only have to extract a small bet to make the play +EV.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:59 PM
MTBlue MTBlue is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL live: building pot for set

Crazy sklanskyism, It's probably alright but you'll hate yourself if you get repopped.
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:13 PM
Jay.Yang Jay.Yang is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL live: building pot for set

Small to medium PP should try to take the Flop as cheap as possible and encouraging multi-way pot, especially you will be OOP if gets called. And since live game is much softer than online game, you need to raise much bigger than $10 to steal the limpers' $$.

And is 77 really a big hand that needs a big pot PF?
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL live: building pot for set

that raise is UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:46 PM
Kos13 Kos13 is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL live: building pot for set

My theory is that, if you do hit your set, one of the other six players is going to hit SOMETHING. If you raise PF, you can't really fastplay your set without it looking like a big hand. If you just check and flop a set, someone might stack off with like K9 when they hit top pair (because when you're a blind, people are almost always going to assume you have rags).
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:41 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL live: building pot for set

A raise to $20 doesn't build a pot for your set?
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