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Old 07-06-2007, 10:47 AM
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Default $16 AK weird ITM spot with shorty

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t4125)
Button (t1270)
SB (t8105)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1200</font>, SB calls t900, Hero?

So, if I push and SB calls, there are a few results:

Button wins, I win. Close to even stacks.
Button busts, I win. Good position for headsup.
Button busts, I bust. I still take 2nd.
Button wins, I bust. 3rd. Boo.

The obvious question is do I fold AK here for fear of busting out in 3rd should Button come out on top? What ranges are Button and SB making these weird plays with?

(And wtf @ Button min-raising, leaving himself t20 behind?)
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: $16 AK weird ITM spot with shorty

With button letting himself 20 behind,I really like a call.Then the button will bubble nearly always.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:05 AM
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I push. We're not on the bubble and I want this pot to take a shot at winning. AK likes to see 5 cards and SB can push me around way too easily post-flop.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:07 AM
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I push. We're not on the bubble and I want this pot to take a shot at winning. AK likes to see 5 cards and SB can push me around way too easily post-flop.

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Yeah, calling wasn't really an option to me here, and I still have plenty of FE.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:10 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $16 AK weird ITM spot with shorty

zomgturbopush

Button is raising wide ITM, SB calls with a 50-100% given his stack, you are already ITM and you have AK. I've seen worse situation.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: $16 AK weird ITM spot with shorty

Loads of FE - SB would have isolated if he liked his hand and he won't want to risk going into HU way behind.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: $16 AK weird ITM spot with shorty

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I push. We're not on the bubble and I want this pot to take a shot at winning. AK likes to see 5 cards and SB can push me around way too easily post-flop.

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Yeah, calling wasn't really an option to me here, and I still have plenty of FE.

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could just calling be valuable to implicitly collude w/ the SB and have a 2 VS 1 situation to move up the pay ladder?

-mike
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: $16 AK weird ITM spot with shorty

Hmmmm I thought we were on the bubble?!!!!!!!!!!
In the money this is a very easy push.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:21 AM
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shove this all day and twice on sundays. so easy.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:24 AM
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I push. We're not on the bubble and I want this pot to take a shot at winning. AK likes to see 5 cards and SB can push me around way too easily post-flop.

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Yeah, calling wasn't really an option to me here, and I still have plenty of FE.

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could just calling be valuable to implicitly collude w/ the SB and have a 2 VS 1 situation to move up the pay ladder?

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You should be playing to win once you're ITM. SB can afford to bluff at any flop, and we only hit it 1 in 3 times. You can't call off this much and then fold the flop, but equally you can't call down light when shortie may end up the winner.

It's push or fold. Calling is out of the question.
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