25NL (9Max): KK, River bet

Jay.Yang · #1 07-06-2007, 01:43 AM

No stats on villain. He's quite aggro...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($23.80)
SB ($8.30)
BB ($27.35)
Hero ($29.15)
MP1 ($13.25)
MP2 ($47.85)
CO ($28.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, CO raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.85) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, CO calls $1.50.

Turn: ($6.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero raises to $7, CO calls $5.

River: ($20.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ?

How's my line up until River? How much should I value bet River? Do you think villain would call a shove?

RyanCMU · #2 07-06-2007, 01:47 AM

I assume you were hoping to get him to raise your flop bet? If that was the plan then thats fine, especially since he is aggressive. I still make this a larger bet though.

I would just lead the turn again here.

I shove river (should be about PSB? anyways)...

Jay.Yang · #3 07-06-2007, 01:57 AM

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I assume you were hoping to get him to raise your flop bet? If that was the plan then thats fine, especially since he is aggressive. I still make this a larger bet though.

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Yeah. Since I just flat calling his 3-bet PF, I try to represent AQ or lower on Flop. If he has an A, he would still call a bigger size bet. However, If the bet is big, he might fold QQ or lower hands on Flop. So I hope that a 1/2 (well, not quite) bet on Flop keeps his QQ hand in play.

ontiltsoon · #4 07-06-2007, 02:28 AM

I would reraise preflop as you will be playing Out Of Position, you have the best hand here 99% of the time get you money in now.
As played you hit the jackpot bet more on the flop. (3.5$)
Bet the Turn, if he does check behind you will feel pretty silly.
Shove the river.

black666 · #5 07-06-2007, 10:10 AM

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As played you hit the jackpot bet more on the flop. (3.5$)
Bet the Turn, if he does check behind you will feel pretty silly.
Shove the river.

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threads13 · #6 07-06-2007, 10:49 AM

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I assume you were hoping to get him to raise your flop bet? If that was the plan then thats fine, especially since he is aggressive. I still make this a larger bet though.

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Yeah. Since I just flat calling his 3-bet PF, I try to represent AQ or lower on Flop. If he has an A, he would still call a bigger size bet. However, If the bet is big, he might fold QQ or lower hands on Flop. So I hope that a 1/2 (well, not quite) bet on Flop keeps his QQ hand in play.

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I think worrying about QQ shouldn't be your concern. I would worry more about getting my stack in against an A.

threads13 · #7 07-06-2007, 10:51 AM

I think you need to raise more on the turn. You need to make it so that it is easy to get your money in on the river. If you raise to $12 you will have about $14 behind in a pot of $31 which makes for an easy river push.

Dennisa · #8 07-06-2007, 11:23 AM

I actually like the size of the raise, as it still will keep single ace hands in, but not fold out two pair hands. Bet 10-12 on the end,villain will push the remaining in if he has a set, else you got most of his money.

threads13 · #9 07-06-2007, 11:26 AM

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I actually like the size of the raise, as it still will keep single ace hands in, but not fold out two pair hands. Bet 10-12 on the end,villain will push the remaining in if he has a set, else you got most of his money.

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Your goal should be to get your money in yourself if you are going to raise the turn. You have to raise the turn enough so that you can easily get it in on the river.

mack848 · #10 07-06-2007, 11:37 AM

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Bet the Turn, if he does check behind you will feel pretty silly.

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If he checks behind, he would probably have folded to a bet anyway.