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How should you play QQ preflop when you are 4bet?
MP has stats 22/17 over 100 hands. Party Poker (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls 396 (All-In), MP calls 394 (All-In). Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: Is it better to just call the 4bet and see flop? If the flop brings and A or a K fold. and if the flop doesn't bring an A or K, be willing to stack off? A wide part of a lot of players 4bet range is probably AK. In the past I've been happy to fold QQ here preflop, but I've seen a lot of players play there weaker hands with a 4bet, so I don't know if folding is the best option. At lower stakes a 4bet is usually AA or KK if player is decent and there isn't a history between the players. |
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if you seriously spite open shoved to prevent him from 3betting you, i applaud you.
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if you seriously spite open shoved to prevent him from 3betting you, i applaud you. [/ QUOTE ] me too [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] |
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if you seriously spite open shoved to prevent him from 3betting you, i applaud you. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sad this is probably a converter problem, otherwise it would have been a master play. |
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Folding QQ preflop is the new folding KK preflop, as in I basically never do it anymore
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Folding QQ preflop is the new folding KK preflop, as in I basically never do it anymore [/ QUOTE ] |
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hm looks like youre playing 2,4?
this is where it folding QQ is no longer marginal but usually wrong-that is the players are aggro enough (usually meaning they are pretty good) to the point where this is a call at 1,2 like 90%+ of all players 4betting in my experience had AA or KK and this is true for bad live games 2,5 and below |
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hm looks like youre playing 2,4? this is where it folding QQ is no longer marginal but usually wrong-that is the players are aggro enough (usually meaning they are pretty good) to the point where this is a call at 1,2 like 90%+ of all players 4betting in my experience had AA or KK and this is true for bad live games 2,5 and below [/ QUOTE ] yea i agree, the games are just so aggro lately that folding QQ shouldn't be done, I think. I'd just get it in and be happy about it |
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ok thanks for replies.
here is the actual hand: http://www.pokerhand.org/?1235979 there was a problem with the converter. the hand was 5bet preflop |
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Use this from now on, pokerhand sucks for converting hands.
http://legopoker.com/hh/index.php With history this is completely standard, against a normal 22/17 without history it's probably a small mistake at most. |
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