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Old 07-04-2007, 10:03 AM
Sparta45 Sparta45 is offline
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Default AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

I don't believe villain is making any sort of move. He was very tight. I probably put him on AQ+, TT+. Should I just CRAI on this flop? Or should I try to lead/3bet?

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Button ($13)
Hero ($110.90)
BB ($173.45)
UTG ($106.45)
UTG+1 ($88.35)
MP1 ($25.15)
MP2 ($67.70)
CO ($106.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $11</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($23) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $22</font>,
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

Instant reraise all-in.
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

yup reraise seems fine
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

I like bet3bai here. As played give him the shoves Mcgee.
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

Bet3bet would be better. As played put it in.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

Stacks are short enough to checkraise AI.

What would you do with a set? With an overpair?
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

Is CRAI with no fold equity the best play here? There is almost no way he doesn't have a big pair here givin the action and also no way he is folding it. So you are 50/50 vs QQ/other pairs and in bad shape to KK and especially AA. I use to push this all day but vs opponents with no fold equity I have been leaning toward calling and seeing the turn.
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

What are your implied odds and reverse implied odds against that range for your A/K outs? For your [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] outs?

What line would you take with sets? Overpairs? What is your range when you check-call flop?

I'm not claiming you're wrong, I'm just trying to think about hands differently now and I hope you can help me.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

he prob doesn't have an overpair. he bet that flop pretty hard. i think he has AK as well.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: AK suited B v B, villian seems strong as well

I play 100/200nl and I think most of the opponents will still pay you off if you hit the flush. The A or K may be tough to get value out of QQ or less, I still think they call a value bet on the river if they check behind one of those turn cards. I will def push this vs a lot of people but the tight players who 3 bet preflop will call me almost 100% of the time so I have been experimenting with trying to hit the hand with the likelyhood that they will pay off some when it hits. What type of payoff do we need to make the check-call correct here?

My line with those hands will vary but I could definitely check-call the flop with a set/overpair/nothing.
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