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Old 07-03-2007, 02:09 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

UTG 50/15/4.75 over 35
CO 38/8.8/0.83 over 35

i'm 20/18/1.5 over 35

pf seems ok

i'd get it in on the flop, but the turn action, and the fact that UTG is left to act confused me

i've donked a flop just previous and taken it down on the turn when i bet a blank vs. CO

obv. both are fish. CO seems passive so far... UTG is agg

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

keikiwai (SB): $220.10
BB: $48.00
UTG: $390.70
CO: $98.40
BTN: $210.50

Preflop: keikiwai is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, keikiwai calls $1.00, BB checks

Flop: ($8) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">keikiwai bets $7.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $7.00, CO calls $7.00

Turn: ($29) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">keikiwai bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $40.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $89.40</font>, keikiwai????????
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

Not closing the action I fold this pretty quick.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

given reads i push this
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

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Not closing the action I fold this pretty quick.

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do you see that we have two pair+FD?
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

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Not closing the action I fold this pretty quick.

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do you see that we have two pair+FD?

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Yes
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

at worst we are 34%, why are you thinking of folding?
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

This may be a leak of mine but I think UTG minraise appears weak and with the CO being short stacked, I would reraise all-in. Good folding equity vs UTG, and CO being shortstacked won't cause much damage. If you're behind, I say there are enough outs for you to catch up for the push to be favorable.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

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at worst we are 34%, why are you thinking of folding?

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Because a shove from the first raisor is likely as is the fact that we may only be drawing to flush outs. Even with the boat outs, if they are live we do not want to get it allin here.

I could well be wrong and may be influenced by the fact that I cannot hit a draw like ever but I still fold.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

think its got marginal stamped all over it. co could have u done with a set/ax for 2pr but could have A9 and be getting all excited. utg min raise, not sure what hes up to. he could have a set here or think that AK is the dogs. if its marginal, as BT says-tend towards aggression and shove. you're unlucky if you're behind and dead drawing. looks like a massive variance spot though!
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: ok, i\'m pretty confused - sooted connector from the SB limped pot

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at worst we are 34%, why are you thinking of folding?

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Because a shove from the first raisor is likely as is the fact that we may only be drawing to flush outs. Even with the boat outs, if they are live we do not want to get it allin here.

I could well be wrong and may be influenced by the fact that I cannot hit a draw like ever but I still fold.

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i think lower 2pr hands are def in range though given these guys maybe an overplayed A
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