Okay, I cold-called. Now what?

SomethingClever · #1 07-02-2007, 07:16 PM

WSEX $100 NL. Effective stacks $100.

Unknown raises to $4 in MP, I call with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the button. Everyone else folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($7.5)

Villain bets $4, I raise to $14, Villain raises to $24, I call.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($54)

Villain checks...

Questions:

1. Do you ever bet the turn here?
2. Let's say you check behind and the river is a brick. Do you bet the river if villain checks?
3. Let's say you check behind, the river is a brick and the villain makes a weak lead for less than 1/2 the pot. Do you ever shove as a bluff?

tozzy · #2 07-02-2007, 07:20 PM

not this turn.
2/3 very villain dependent.

SomethingClever · #3 07-02-2007, 07:22 PM

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not this turn.
2/3 very villain dependent.

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What turns would you bet and why?

kekedarius · #4 07-02-2007, 07:24 PM

I shove this flop like always but I'm a spewbox so who knows. As played I think you can shove the turn. He probably has something goofy like T9, a draw, or air and would probably lay it down here.

chisness · #5 07-02-2007, 07:35 PM

i'd usually push flop since that seems to be a bluff line from unknowns, giving you lots of FE.

Unknown Soldier · #6 07-02-2007, 07:39 PM

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i'd usually push flop since that seems to be a bluff line from unknowns, giving you lots of FE.

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i think that thought process is spew

op, i give up unless i hit

tozzy · #7 07-02-2007, 07:47 PM

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not this turn.
2/3 very villain dependent.

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What turns would you bet and why?

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any nonspade J-upwards because we either hit toppair now or can represent A/K, a hand that the usual donk likes to put us on a lot ofc, if you never ever raise this flopbet with OCs, itll be a little harder tho

John49 · #8 07-02-2007, 08:13 PM

I would check this turn. I just have no friggin clue where you're at. You're not way ahead, that's for sure. Also, his reraise to 24 on the flop tells me he wants you to stay and put your money in.

Don't know if a Q or J rivers, that you'll even be ahead. If it does, I would still call if he bets out river.