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Old 07-02-2007, 06:11 PM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default KK vs fish+QJT flop

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $393.65
Hero (BB): $483.25
UTG: $192.05
BTN: $214.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22.00</font>, BTN calls $15.00

Flop: ($45) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $50.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $95.00

villian is 65/15/0.4 Hows my line here.
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

fine.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

First i'd vomit all over this board and then probably bet(30'ish)/fold against this passive villain. If called i shut down unless i hit an out.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

i dont think youre behind here all that often. given your stats, i HIGHLY doubt hed be playing a set or AK this way. KQ, AQ, AJ, QJ, QT being the most likely holdings for me. bet/fold seems good to me.
moreover, i dont like the fold. we have the overpair, the OESD (discount) and the backdoorFD. c/f is clearly the worst option.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

I genuinely salivate at the thought of getting it in here against this guy...

I don't c/f here against a TAG, let alone against someone who needs a handchart to look up what he has.

Also, ppl who come to the conclusion that villain is passive (or more precisely: that his betting range is strong) based on those 3 stats are better off not using AF at all, seriously.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

If i checked the flop here, it would be with intention of CRAI. Two kings in your hand greatly reduces the chance he has Ak also.

He's a button raiser who pfr 15% of hands and is presumably folding very little to a 3 bet.


Granted this a pretty wide range, but you get the point.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

80,190 games 0.005 secs 16,038,000 games/sec

Board: Tc Js Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.117% 56.62% 04.50% 45404 3606.00 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 38.883% 34.39% 04.50% 27574 3606.00 { 99+, A9s+, K9s+, QJs, JTs, AJo+, KJo+ }
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

[ QUOTE ]
I genuinely salivate at the thought of getting it in here against this guy...

I don't c/f here against a TAG, let alone against someone who needs a handchart to look up what he has.

Also, ppl who come to the conclusion that villain is passive (or more precisely: that his betting range is strong) based on those 3 stats are better off not using AF at all, seriously.

[/ QUOTE ]

if these stats are reliable, why would you assume otherwise?
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

why is this a check-fold and not a push?
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

word up yo. did you go buy a new skirt after this hand?
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:31 AM
Fractured_simile Fractured_simile is offline
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Default Re: KK vs fish+QJT flop

rather than start a new thread I'll post this hand here:

villain is pretty fishy 53/11/2.3 over 136

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $94.28
UTG+1: $28.55
Hero: $135.40
Button: $103.72
SB: $18.75
BB: $112.01

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($19.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG is all-in $86.28</font>.
Hero...

Turn: : ($105.78, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $105.78)

snap call?
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