River Play with trips (LC)

kevinhav11 · #1 07-02-2007, 10:26 AM

Background: I am 4 tabling so I don't have a whole lot of information on anyone but I did watch this guy bet out every street with a flopped nut flush.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, Button folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (12 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB
What do you guys think of this river c/c? I don't think this guy cold called a straight draw on the flop against two bets so I think he has a lower Q or something like k10.

NIX · #2 07-02-2007, 10:33 AM

You don't have enough of a read to know if UTG+1 can or can't call on the flop with KJ/J8 really. And he had odds to call with KJ anyways.

Definitely bet the river. You're good way too often and don't have a read that UTG+1 is going to bluff so you can check/raise. Once he raises, I'd probaby just call. I think a straight, 9s full, or a badly slowplayed full house are more likely than KT/A9.

Xhad · #3 07-02-2007, 10:36 AM

You really think KJ folds this flop? You think coldcalling a gutshot on the flop is less likely than limping Q8 pf?

Fantam · #4 07-02-2007, 11:08 AM

Why would your opponent wait until the river to raise with trips Q's as opposed to raising the turn ?

You also dont have a read on your opponent that he might try to bluff raise the river.

So, I would have preferred to just call his river raise as opposed to 3-bet, as I suspect that he probably did make a straight.

Buzz-cp · #5 07-02-2007, 03:36 PM

just call the river raise. I don't think our equity is good enough to 3bet. If the other guy was still in, I would 3bet, but now we are headsup.

Buzz

jstill · #6 07-02-2007, 05:44 PM

him calling 2 cold on the flop then raising the river is a terrible sign its a draw TPGK two pair or a set almost all of which have u beat on the river that raise.

noone folds KJ in utg shoes and noone raises KT J9 on the river and calls a 3bet, worse Qs sometimes go for the overcall so that leaves 12 combos of KJ vs maybe 8 QJ a chop or AQ possibly. definitely just call this river and be happy if u won.

aK13 · #7 07-02-2007, 06:22 PM

I fold preflop.

Nobody else? =(

Buzz-cp · #8 07-02-2007, 06:38 PM

from the SB? I'm not bothered by it.

TarHeel100 · #9 07-02-2007, 07:08 PM

Looking at it from villain's perspective, it seems pretty clear to me based on the way preflop and flop went down, that you have at least split Queens or a slow played overpair. Which means most likely split Queens. The flop is fairly ragged so there would be no need for you to jam a pot on the flop with a draw.

If your opponent is paying any attention then he is not raising the river w/ anything less than a straight in my opinion. On the river, I bet and then just call his raise.

marchron · #10 07-03-2007, 01:14 AM

I am confused.

1. How is this LC?

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River: (12 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB
What do you guys think of this river c/c?

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2. Where's the check/call?