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Old 07-02-2007, 09:43 AM
doublec doublec is offline
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Default 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

Given the reraise all-in by a fairly tight preflop villain, should this be a fold? I had been raising the last couple of hands due to getting a good run of cards so considered they might have got tired of it.

For preflop hands like TT/JJ in position with a raiser and caller, is the reraise a reasonable line or is it better to see the flop cheap and go from there?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($24.95)
SB ($26.85)
BB ($8.10)
UTG ($16.20)
MP ($28.55)
CO ($23)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16.2</font>, CO folds, Hero ...
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

3-bet with JJ is standard, as is the fold to a push. If he's pushing with less than QQ here, wait for a better spot and stack him with your aces. But he's probably not, since he's "fairly tight".
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

Even though he's a shorty, since he's pretty tight and he is raising from UTG I fold.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

If a "fairly tight" player raises 4xBB UTG it smells like AA,KK,QQ,AKs,(AQs) or 72o for shania [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
You got him covered, so I'd say he has a made hand like a high pocket pair (KK or QQ), but AKs at least. Even against AKs JJ looks kinda weak (just 58% to win it though).
I'd not call with JJ, unless I am absolutely sure he has AK.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

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If a "fairly tight" player raises 4xBB UTG it smells like AA,KK,QQ,AKs,(AQs) or 72o for shania [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
You got him covered, so I'd say he has a made hand like a high pocket pair (KK or QQ), but AKs at least. Even against AKs JJ looks kinda weak (just 58% to win it though).
I'd not call with JJ, unless I am absolutely sure he has AK.

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wtf does this have to do with meatgame?
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

I'm not sure how much metagame there is at $25 NL...

Just fold your JJ and be thankful he didn't flat call your 3-bet and then witness a low rag flop - you would probably have been stacked.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

sorry misread your post...
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:13 AM
KampfHase KampfHase is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

Well, I wouldn't count on metagame estimations pre-flop when holding JJ. There are better spots to pick in order to find out whether the opponent is "metagaming" or not.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

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3-bet with JJ is standard

[/ QUOTE ] I often call PF with JJ IP...I have a decent idea of villain's range and the flop gives me more info than it gives the PFR. Plus, in the 3-bet pot I can lose some of my positional advantage.

is this wrong? Anyone with a good explanation?
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: 25NL: Reraised with JJ and facing push

Standard line is to fold, but if you have history then it becomes read dependant. Given your history I'd lean towards a call, but its really up to you...
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