Bodog 100K - 19 left, JJ in BB with raise & shove in front

[People_Mover]

Bodog 100K - 19 left, avg stack 90K
Blinds 3K/6K w/ante

We are 7 handed, LAG CO opens for 19K, tightest guy at the table shoves for 123K, Hero (133K) in BB with JJ [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[djk123]

Can't ever see folding this. I would have to think TT is in his range and probably AQ too.

[The Hag]

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Can't ever see folding this. I would have to think TT is in his range and probably AQ too.

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No.

[djk123]

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Can't ever see folding this. I would have to think TT is in his range and probably AQ too.

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No.

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lol. care to expand?

[Swami54]

If your read is that he is the tightest at the table then I think it's a fold. Against a LAG I would be happy to get it in.

[djk123]

Ok so he's tight, but he probably at least has noticed that this guy in CO has been raising a lot. Is he really going to fold or flat call TT or AQ here? Also, I think AA can be taken out of his range or at least significantly discounted. I would push for sure here.

[ZJ123]

djk123 is right. Stick it in, unless hes a supernit.

[registrar]

OP, this is never going to work as a post. Basically, to make this a fold, you need to convey your read that villain is only shoving QQ+, AK and sometimes not QQ and that villain exclusively plays cards and not spots. Those villains are out there and you can fold here if you're sure that this one of them.

But we're not going to tell you he's got QQ+, AK+ exclusively. We're going to say JJ+overlay+TT/AQo+range=shove.

[ThePershore]

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But we're not going to tell you he's got QQ+, AK+ exclusively. We're going to say JJ+overlay+TT/AQo+range=shove.

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I think once you add the fact that villian opened from late pos (cut-off) as well, and the shove is coming from the button (or SB?) then it makes it even more of a call...

[THEOSU]

zj,

i've spent like 5 minutes reading your avatar. great stuff.