NL50 - QQ facing huge overbet on flop

[Tragic]

Villain sat down recently and has not been involved in many pots.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $41.25
BB: $48.25
UTG: $40.95
MP: $25.65
Hero (CO): $58.45
BTN: $46.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.50</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($17.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $39.75</font>, Hero calls $39.75

Turn: ($97.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($97.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $97.25 ($3 Rake)

[chrismystero]

i probably push preflop, but im somewhat new to cashgaming.

i call this flop everytime

[Knuckles]

I am folding this every time. Unless you have a specific read give the player the benefit of the doubt and fold.

[Dogballs88]

No way I would ever call this vs. an unknown.

[creamfillin]

You have position; use it to your advantage. He's basically turning his hand face-up on this flop. I guess a small slice of the time this is a whiffed AK but everything else has you crushed here.

[Warteen]

If you're just calling preflop with QQ, it means you believe there's a chance villain has AA-KK. That hasn't changed on the flop, so you must fold here.

[Knuckles]

You should never be calling this flop. Most players aren't 3 betting light. So I fed the following range of hands into poker stove and it came back 57/42

KK+,QcQh,JcJh,JcJs,JhJs,AKs,AcQc,AhQh,AsQs,AcJc,Ah Jh,AsJs,AKo,AcQh,AcQs,AdQc,AdQh,AdQs,AhQc,AhQs,AsQ c,AsQh,AcJh,AcJs,AdJc,AdJh,AdJs,AhJc,AhJs,AsJc,AsJ h

With this very generous range of hands pre-flop your a dog.

With what I consider a more realistic range of hands assuming he will bluff push AK, your 50/50.

KK+,QcQh,JcJh,JcJs,JhJs,AKs,AdQd,AKo,AJo

What I actually expect your against, your a 37/63 dog.

KK+,QcQh,JcJh,JcJs,JhJs,AdKd,AdQd,AJo

[Tragic]

In todays climate is this ever AK? I feel like I'm always shown AA or KK here yet I can't find a fold because it still screams AK.

[Knuckles]

If it is AKs of diamonds your stil -EV since it is 50/50. You just need to be patient and make a note of this players behavior to try and figure out what it means.

[Tragic]

Thanks for taking the time to run those numbers knuckles. I hadn't gotten that far yet.

Although I have to disagree with you on the 3 betting. I feel as though everyone is re-raising light these days.