Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-01-2007, 04:52 AM
cha59 cha59 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: getting tarped by AXo
Posts: 3,070
Default Orleans 1/2 NL - 44 flopped set vs good 2+2er

Mods, go ahead and move this to B & M if necessary, but I think it would make for good discussion here.

Villain is a good solid 2+2er who is a winning internet cash game player.

Stacks are all ~ 200 or so.

Hero limps UTG with 44.
Villain UTG+1 raises to 10.
CO cold calls 10.
Hero calls.
All others fold.

Flop K74 rainbow

Hero checks (planning on checkraising)
Villain checks behind.
CO checks.

Turn J (no flush draws)

Hero bets 15
Villain calls
CO calls

River J

Hero bets 40
Villain raises to 115
CO folds
Hero?

FWIW, I'm villain probably doesn't have KJ. He isnt going to bluff here either because he knows I'm strong and has basically no FE because of the pot size.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-01-2007, 05:05 AM
aislephive aislephive is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: And now the children are asleep
Posts: 6,874
Default Re: Orleans 1/2 NL - 44 flopped set vs good 2+2er

Call because this could pretty easily be Jx. I'd raise AJ as villain basically always in this spot.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-03-2007, 09:30 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,886
Default Re: Orleans 1/2 NL - 44 flopped set vs good 2+2er

Why do you continue to do this c'ring crap? Remember the hand versus Phil Gordon?

I suspect you're worried about quads or setzers? What were your thoughts on his cold call on the turn? Again, this would be more meaningful had you lead the flop. The K-high flop is a great flop to lead if villain **knows** you, suggesing you have AK.

Oh, how many at the table? Will villain raise AJs UTG+1?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-03-2007, 09:33 PM
FishSticks FishSticks is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Tailgating at the Ralph
Posts: 2,687
Default Re: Orleans 1/2 NL - 44 flopped set vs good 2+2er

Looks like an easy call to me.

I would personally lead the flop, but w/e.

On the turn the bet size looks a little small. River you gotta call, you'll see trips way too often to fold this.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-04-2007, 12:15 AM
cha59 cha59 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: getting tarped by AXo
Posts: 3,070
Default Re: Orleans 1/2 NL - 44 flopped set vs good 2+2er

[ QUOTE ]
Why do you continue to do this c'ring crap? Remember the hand versus Phil Gordon?

I suspect you're worried about quads or setzers? What were your thoughts on his cold call on the turn? Again, this would be more meaningful had you lead the flop. The K-high flop is a great flop to lead if villain **knows** you, suggesing you have AK.

Oh, how many at the table? Will villain raise AJs UTG+1?

[/ QUOTE ]

Im considering c'r ing because I want to get more money in the pot. Maybe leading is best, but I figured he'd lead the flop and the other guy would call.

If villain knows me well enough (he might, not sure), he would know I don't have AK here.

I think there were 9 or 10 at the table. I think he could have AJ, KK or JJ. I cant imagine anything else.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.