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Old 06-30-2007, 02:02 PM
The DaveR The DaveR is offline
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Bellagio 30 game. UTG who has the looks and mannerisms of a young internet pro raises, folds to me in the SB and I call with black 44, BB calls.

Flop is K94r. I bet, BB calls, UTG raises, I call so I can bet-3-bet the turn, BB now 3-bets, UTG tanks and relucantly calls. BB is young, friendly, Western Canadian, seems reasonable, tight and less aggressive than a standard internet player.

How many bets do I want to go on the big streets and how do I get there? Assume that UTG is folding if the turn isn't an Ace or broadway.
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:26 PM
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He's 2x as likely to have K9 as 99, and that's assuming UTG has a K.

I think the move is to c/r the turn and then call down a 3b or fold depending on your read.

Between that and cap now and lead calldown the turn.

Your choice depends on how likely UTG is to make a good laydown. And if there is any chance that tightie doesn't 3b 99 to a turn c/r, then that becomes the obvious choice, but that sounds very unlikely.
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:28 PM
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He's 2x as likely to have K9 as 99, and that's assuming UTG has a K.

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Based on combos, yes. On action, no. His action says 99, because K9 would be a flop raise more often than a call/3-bet wouldn't it?

I'm just check-calling down from here.
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:31 PM
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I think AK is very possible for the bb.
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:31 PM
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He's 2x as likely to have K9 as 99, and that's assuming UTG has a K.

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Based on combos, yes. On action, no. His action says 99, because K9 would be a flop raise more often than a call/3-bet wouldn't it?

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Ya that's a good point.

EDIT: Actually, joker, K9 might be wanting TT-QQ to come along, or hoping a K good kicker raises so he can 3b, so I'm not so sure now....
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:33 PM
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go nuts on the flop.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:41 PM
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He's 2x as likely to have K9 as 99, and that's assuming UTG has a K.

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Based on combos, yes. On action, no. His action says 99, because K9 would be a flop raise more often than a call/3-bet wouldn't it?

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Ya that's a good point.

EDIT: Actually, joker, K9 might be wanting TT-QQ to come along, or hoping a K good kicker raises so he can 3b, so I'm not so sure now....

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I don't think that the action here does much yet to define his hand. This board is pretty dry and K9 can think he has the nuts just as easily as 99.
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:43 PM
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He's 2x as likely to have K9 as 99, and that's assuming UTG has a K.

I think the move is to c/r the turn and then call down a 3b or fold depending on your read.

Between that and cap now and lead calldown the turn.

Your choice depends on how likely UTG is to make a good laydown. And if there is any chance that tightie doesn't 3b 99 to a turn c/r, then that becomes the obvious choice, but that sounds very unlikely.

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Good analysis. I'd probly lean towards the cap, lead/calldown option so i don't have to consider folding.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:57 PM
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id cr the turn and puke when he 3bets and look like an idiot when i call down. duh, its vegas, he has a set of 9s.
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:34 PM
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obv trapping with pocket aces

and what victor said
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