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06-28-2007, 04:12 PM
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OESD on the flop vs. LAG pfr and calling station
PF 3bettor is 30/20 LAG/TAG and plays solid so far, other guy is 55/0 calling station.
Because I generally don't have to deal with aggro TAGs, I have close to zero experience when it comes to pumping draws on the flop. Is it good here? PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls. Flop: (9.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, 
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#4
06-28-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: OESD on the flop vs. LAG pfr and calling station
yourface,
By just calling aren't we losing some value here though? With the OESD + bdfd aren't we making money with each bet that goes in on the flop? Plus, I think we're still getting paid off when we hit a straight as the board won't look particularly scary.
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#5
06-28-2007, 06:23 PM
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Re: OESD on the flop vs. LAG pfr and calling station
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yourface, By just calling aren't we losing some value here though? With the OESD + bdfd aren't we making money with each bet that goes in on the flop? Plus, I think we're still getting paid off when we hit a straight as the board won't look particularly scary. [/ QUOTE ] are equity edge against two opponents is pretty slight (someone should stove this, but i think that this is pretty close to neutral ev when you account for the fact that flush draws are out there, and often some of our outs are in their hands). but if we just call we almost always trap both of them for two bets on the turn when we hit. we lose this advantage when they check to us on the turn, which i suspect they do often. (capping, however, will sometimes earn us a free card, which is one advantage).
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#7
06-28-2007, 08:37 PM
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Re: OESD on the flop vs. LAG pfr and calling station
i don t understand flop cap.It s ev+ to cap here because there are 3players??
Don 't forget A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]and 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] are out who don t give you the nuts
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#8
06-28-2007, 08:39 PM
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Re: OESD on the flop vs. LAG pfr and calling station
I don t understand flop cap.It s ev+ to cap here because there are 3players??
Don 't forget A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]and 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] are outs who don't give you the nuts.
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