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Old 06-27-2007, 07:48 AM
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Default Spew or Yeti is right?

Villain is 17/14/5


EverestPoker Game #1695453718: Table Bamako-18 - $2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:46:24 - 2007/06/20
Seat 3: sebnardo ($430.90)
Seat 4: Djegum ($695.60)
Seat 5: Espectral ($405.80)
Seat 6: Villain ($394.00)
Seat 1: Hero ($392.30)
Seat 2: jskiban ($137.76)
Hero posts the small blind of $2.00
jskiban posts the big blind of $4.00
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
sebnardo folds
Djegum folds
Espectral folds
Villain raises to $14.00
Hero calls $12.00
jskiban folds
*** FLOP *** [7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Hero checks
Villain bets $32.00
Hero raises to $90.00
Villain raises to $200.00
Hero raises to $378.30 and is all-in
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: Spew or Yeti is right?

It's not a dry flop
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: Spew or Yeti is right?

pf is shakey
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Spew or Yeti is right?

it all looks spewy to me

reraise or fold pre

just check/call flop normally and go from there
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Spew or Yeti is right?

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It's not a dry flop

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There is only a flush draw and the board is paired.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: Spew or Yeti is right?

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On a 410k hand downswing

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Are you sure itīs a downswing?
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Spew or Yeti is right?

doesn't apply when they raise it back to you v small.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:10 AM
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actually so long as this sample is biggish this isn't terrible, but this is insanely high variance play.. you only really should be doing this agaisnt regs that you know will cbet the paired flop all day, but you have to do this with air and make sure they know its in you're range..

without the above going on .. yeah prf is ehh what is his % stealage? as played just c/c, maybe lead a brick turn
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:56 AM
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actually so long as this sample is biggish this isn't terrible, but this is insanely high variance play.. you only really should be doing this agaisnt regs that you know will cbet the paired flop all day, but you have to do this with air and make sure they know its in you're range..

without the above going on .. yeah prf is ehh what is his % stealage? as played just c/c, maybe lead a brick turn

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His steal blind is 27 %. This is a regular and I'm sure he cbet this flop all day. I agree that the standart play would be to check-call this flop, but I tought he wouldn't give me much credit when I raise and he could be calling with worse.

The small 3bet was very strange and I think the only real hands he could do that with is a flopped boat, but he's more likely to just call with that. I don't see an overpair or a flushdraw do the small 3bet, he probably just push with those.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:12 AM
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actually so long as this sample is biggish this isn't terrible, but this is insanely high variance play.. you only really should be doing this agaisnt regs that you know will cbet the paired flop all day, but you have to do this with air and make sure they know its in you're range..

without the above going on .. yeah prf is ehh what is his % stealage? as played just c/c, maybe lead a brick turn

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His steal blind is 27 %. This is a regular and I'm sure he cbet this flop all day. I agree that the standart play would be to check-call this flop, but I tought he wouldn't give me much credit when I raise and he could be calling with worse.

The small 3bet was very strange and I think the only real hands he could do that with is a flopped boat, but he's more likely to just call with that. I don't see an overpair or a flushdraw do the small 3bet, he probably just push with those.

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ok so you are on the train of logic that he thinks you have junk and will shove junk right back atcha.. if thats the case, its too late to turn back after the c/r, just felt this.. 87/AJ/QQ+ are all in his range.. but so are combo draws and weaker jacks... and air
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