[NL50] 5-Handed. KK vs Big stack!

[oaklaus]

***** Hand 664129280 *****
0.25/0.50 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Monday, June 25, 2007 11:58:33 PM
Table TH 669 (Real/Cash Game)

Seat 1: TANYA69 (50.00)
Seat 2: quarantuno (38.40)
Seat 3: WellLifeIs (63.90)
<font color="darkblue">Seat 4: Hero(149.97)
Seat 5: Vilain (182.05)</font>

WellLifeIs post SB 0.25
Hero post BB 0.50

** Deal **

Hero K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

PREFLOP
Vilain Raise to 2.50
TANYA69 Call 2.50
quarantuno Call 2.50
WellLifeIs Fold
Hero Raise to 20.00
Vilain Raise to 65.50
TANYA69 Fold
quarantuno Fold
<font color="red">Hero ???</font>

[creamfillin]

is that a hand or C++

[Lego05]

Why 20? Making it 13 or so seems just fine to me.

Any reads, stats or anything on villian? How did he get his stack?


And I don't know: I would not be happy if I found myself in this spot. Fold's prolly not good, but if you don't fold here you're probably goin to be putting 300BB's in the middle. 5bet shove......or call and check raise shove any flop with no A and no Q.


I dunno.

[K䲰䮥n]

[oaklaus]

If Vialain has AA is not the question. The question is: what should I do, push, fold, call???

No Infos on Vilain, he wasn't at the table when I arrived (30 min ago , good run!) and direct buy-in with this amount (probably the stack he had when he left the table).
He seem's to play correctly! but no more informations!

[Lego05]

How bout a maybe option. I think this is actually a more interesting KK pre-flop hand since they are 300 BB's deep.

If he seemed to be playing correctly and you haven`t been 3/4 betting each other light before, I fold.

[phatjeffrey]

ivey folded KK , you should...

[greggg230]

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5bet shove...... do not call and check raise shove any flop with no A and no Q.


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Calling just gives AK/AQ/QQ a chance to catch up. If you're going to get all the money in on a flop like that, just get the money in pre-flop; you still lose to AA and if you let them see a flop, you can now lose to Ax and QQ.

[ama0330]

first raise is too big, go for $14 instead

as played you're too deep to shove, I just fold