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Old 06-27-2007, 12:37 AM
nmt09 nmt09 is offline
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Default FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

Villan was running 38/18/1.5 through 150 hands. We had been playing heads up about 15 hands earlier and have prior history. Overall a big donkey that donk bets the pot with any piece of the flop. Is able to fold very weak hands but overall a big calling station. I had not seen him bet a draw up to this point, just check/call. Even with the low Agression factor, he was trying to run over the table making plays. The reason I put a small bet out on the flop was to not scare him off because I put him on bottom pair, and he had been scared off with a pot sized raise a few hands before. I also mention that every bet he made during the hand was incredibly fast, probably done by mashing the pot button on Full Tilt. What do you put him on here and what would you do on the river?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">CO ($25)</font>
Button ($25)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($77.70)</font>
BB ($39.25)
UTG ($10.15)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($54.45)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($2.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.25</font>, SB calls $4.

Turn: ($14.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $14.75</font>, Hero calls $14.75.

River: ($44.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $44.25</font>, Hero ???
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:43 AM
creamfillin creamfillin is offline
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Default Re: FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

villain seems like an idiot, there's only one hand I worry about here - TT. The way he played it looks like he is trying to push you off an overpair or is on tilt. River is a fistpump call.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

Shove turn....
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:50 AM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

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Shove turn....

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Old 06-27-2007, 04:10 AM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

id def raise the turn esp if we are deep if he pushs i call if he calls i look to get AI on river. You say villian is tryin to run over the table so he could be doin this w/ alot. Theres not really many hands im worried about, TT maybe but given 18pfr id guess he would 3bet this??
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:02 AM
dimeetrees dimeetrees is offline
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Default Re: FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

Id love to be in a spot like that, but that river card is scary indeed. Id only be worried about a 3... I gotta call the river... and if he has a 3 then unlucky for me.

Personally with soooo much money in the pot by the turn, i dont see any reason not to raise there and try to take it down, being deceptive about your hand on the turn doesnt really gain you much on later streets IMO.
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

The reason that I checked the the turn was strictly for deception to try and get him to push the river. As I said he showed the ability to fold some marginal holdings especially once he began playing for stacks. Even with a smaller bet from him on the river he is already commited.
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

if you felt like he'd fire a big bet on the river with a worse holding than your's then I think your weak turn call is fine and you set him up nicely for the river. My standard line is to take it down when the pot gets big, but you sound like you had a good line on his play.
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: FTP nl 25 with very deepstack

My first thought was AT ... second thought 22/TT. I just can't see villain here with a 3.

If it's a set over set than there is nothing you can do and the money gets in anyway.
You have a set and there is no real danger on the board except a very weird straight. All-in baby.
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