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Old 06-26-2007, 05:10 AM
NIX NIX is offline
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Default Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

MP1 is running at 24/19/3 over 42 hands. He's obviously aggressive preflop and quite aggressive postflop. He doesn't peel a lot of flops and on the turn and river, he's is often betting/raising or folding. He has been to showdowns a little less often than I'd expect, but wins a lot of them.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

I planned on check/raising the flop since there is a lot for him to call with and worse hands that he can jam. When he didn't bet, I figured there was a good chance he has a higher set. With this particular Villain's reluctance to call bets on big streets, is this ok to balance value, or is it too weak?
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

At least C/R the river.

Edit: I think your mainstream and your alternative lines should meet up with a raise on the river.

Babar, read his last sentence, focusing on "is this ok to balance" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

jesus christ what are you doing??? missed flop c/r, okay fine it happens. b/3b or c/r the turn please and get some money in the pot!!!

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Old 06-26-2007, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

also 24/19 - not really a lag
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

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When he didn't bet, I figured there was a good chance he has a higher set.

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I don't get this at all. He has an AF of 3. Do you consider him a backward player, checking monsters, betting crap?

Definitely raise turn.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

zeldark, no, it's not okay.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

also 42 hands isn't a sample of a size that we can justifiably make plays like this. 50/30 is a lag. i guess lags are rarer in fr though so i could give you an overaggro fit or foldy tag, but it's only 4-5 orbits and a couple better hands than normal distribution will easily give you those stats. either way, we have a set, get money in the pot, sheesh.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

argh, babar is going to bed before he gets too angry.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:30 AM
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tilting at other people's posts = bad sign [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line

boringly standard.
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